From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Sep 06 20:12:37 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MkUej-0007Ve-5D for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:12:37 -0700 Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com ([209.85.210.171]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MkUec-0007V2-6x for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:12:37 -0700 Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so1103075yxe.28 for ; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:12:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TV5Q8ynLEIbbAFg7LLsVwAWf9rk0B8j06Ni/DnsOD38=; b=l+Oiwn626s7V9yIwyoK+ByjNVtKBjuMrsB55kFLfgzzkEG+oA0b+UvqmjIz92kcfOx V4gHh6rAtNCMYuPQHa448ZH2ivwXN0kLeE8qArIpG6nZs32ThNeNVtT3etnEFQ+4AMdg IuBODeJLOyqIqdjtDJ0Eu2V4ye7mYQw+6HC+0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NYjMHAj6Zc+Nrnm5xRqmB6NBPeaQW4UjxTwoQxZ9UEsKrk5D6BDjGgNMogMs/rfDpa GxIfd90DekUxicb1m0V8Ix0B47o3htTY/I2aelyzh5rNUo1dOIKwvqmOpG2yoDxIwdIY gxzr02KnGUz5qHgz6APGhVRzaACe9SBC9og64= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.65.21 with SMTP id n21mr22702815yba.89.1252293143438; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:12:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <425e4ac20909061740w3e25dc9dl774fa067f00b850a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300909061025w39db3696k72c6511910cc454a@mail.gmail.com> <425e4ac20909061740w3e25dc9dl774fa067f00b850a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 23:12:23 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300909062012l7f6c5fd3s41575a8c2b5c3396@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: I remember From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48ba2f827810472f437d0 X-archive-position: 2222 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --000e0cd48ba2f827810472f437d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 awesome, I should have thought of a lujvo or something like that. I was just wondering if there was a way to do it with abstractions and such like Pierre suggested. I like both methods actually, maybe I'll switch things up and use the {li'i} method or the lujvo method depending on my mood. On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Stela Selckiku wrote: > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > > how would you say "I remembered to say 'hello everybody'"? > > > > It seems like morji would be good but that's more like "x1 remembers > > fact x2." not "x1 remembers to do x2'. > > > I might say "mi morji fi le nu mi cusku lu coi ro do li'u", I > remembered something (implied: that it was important and that I should > do it) about the event of me saying "coi ro do". That's ambiguous > though as to the relationship between the remembering and the saying. > Perhaps "mi cusku lu coi ro do li'u ki'u le nu morji", I said "coi ro > do" because of remembering, that's slightly clearer. > > I also think it's a good opportunity for some specific lujvo. There's > two good rafsi for "morji", "moj" and "mo'i". We can base a lot of > different interesting kinds of remembering on "-mo'i"! I'd like one > that means "to suddenly remember something you had forgotten"-- > perhaps za'e "sukmo'i"? Anyway, for remembering to do something, hmm, > "mojgau" is taken, so perhaps za'e "mojyzu'e" (morji zei zukte)? Or, > oh, hey, looks like Pierre came up with "zukmo'i" for just this in > 2002! So then it would be, "mi zukmo'i le nu mi cusku lu coi ro do > li'u". > > > mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o > > > > --000e0cd48ba2f827810472f437d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable awesome, I should have thought of a lujvo or something like that.=A0 I was = just wondering if there was a way to do it with abstractions and such like = Pierre suggested. I like both methods actually, maybe I'll switch thing= s up and use the {li'i} method or the lujvo method depending on my mood= .

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Stela Selcki= ku <selckiku@gma= il.com> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Luke Bergen<lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> how would you say "I remembered to say 'hello everybody'&= quot;?
>
> It seems like morji would be good but that's more like "x1 re= members
> fact x2." =A0not "x1 remembers to do x2'.


I might say "mi morji fi le nu mi cusku lu coi ro do li'u&qu= ot;, I
remembered something (implied: that it was important and that I should
do it) about the event of me saying "coi ro do". =A0That's am= biguous
though as to the relationship between the remembering and the saying.
Perhaps "mi cusku lu coi ro do li'u ki'u le nu morji", I = said "coi ro
do" because of remembering, that's slightly clearer.

I also think it's a good opportunity for some specific lujvo. =A0There&= #39;s
two good rafsi for "morji", "moj" and "mo'i&qu= ot;. =A0We can base a lot of
different interesting kinds of remembering on "-mo'i"! =A0I&#= 39;d like one
that means "to suddenly remember something you had forgotten"-- perhaps za'e "sukmo'i"? =A0Anyway, for remembering to do = something, hmm,
"mojgau" is taken, so perhaps za'e "mojyzu'e" (= morji zei zukte)? =A0Or,
oh, hey, looks like Pierre came up with "zukmo'i" for just th= is in
2002! =A0So then it would be, "mi zukmo'i le nu mi cusku lu coi ro= do
li'u".


mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o




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