From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 08 13:55:34 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ml7iv-0002ow-Uk for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:55:34 -0700 Received: from mail-yx0-f197.google.com ([209.85.210.197]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ml7im-0002m4-EB for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:55:33 -0700 Received: by yxe35 with SMTP id 35so9109971yxe.2 for ; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:55:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6mF6lu9Wp51xVlWV0PhDKuieo5yHMnQsCB2X7aJMXKI=; b=miBFTJZZR/nrjP10duq2zJffyVC24xEfZWb4YC1+7o3jXn/IwhodIpNr2fvJjwsCCQ JLo+/735qagHpn6Ge4nDgx89uNJMiDkJ6Lgq0wdUnhCwOsgDC5QptFEZKKkXcPtRLNdU 6m3z6YNaYQ877KB+Bjj1sY4TdswWSaYtgWOzw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EdUsBTvXL325gOHzRGGqVo8tGDKCW8VbWuIHsqNCeZUXzCKLkEoSoTr3ODQNVv1O0L ZsMjk9S4URjDwuLwvCcRB2BzHEmly0sQ4RFXbAyXUkPI+1T4tGgYVGjY4y2Ytn4LDLZ+ /VI07hYF2wFo4uZoPJzM9LGY+S7jg0B08V4Uc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.183.11 with SMTP id g11mr26908531ybf.50.1252443317546; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:55:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930909080601x267bddb2u16d4a181fbdcf463@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300909071515h38f2fbdfwdc29c21b411830f5@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930909080601x267bddb2u16d4a181fbdcf463@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 16:55:17 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300909081355n62d41a2cta9dafa7de347dfc5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: le nikle gerku From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6ad040b311b0473172f5d X-archive-position: 2256 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --000e0cd6ad040b311b0473172f5d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Apparently lindar had a similar idea (and got it up on lojban.org). Good idea to use jbotcan, lindar. Don't know why I hadn't thought of that. http://www.lojban.org/tiki/le+nikyge%27u+selkei http://jbotcan.org/jbo/res/1096.html On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:01 AM, tijlan wrote: > mi'u mi ai mi'e tijlan > > A suggestion: how about having a taboo word or two that should not be > formed in a certain subtle way? "bongu", for example: > > i *b*a lo nu citka kei le gerku cu *dansu* > i *o*i ko na *sutra *lo ka carna > i *n*e'a lo palta le gerku za'o *traji *lo ka carna > i *g*e po'o nai mi gi ji'a ko *jinme* > i *u*'u bai do mi co'u *melbi* > > The utterer of the last sentence beginning with "u" (ignoring "i") gets > eliminated. > > This could be a strategic trap into which one is led by other players > working together to furtively prepare "bong-". But falling into that > wouldn't be very likely, for there aren't many jbovla beginning with "u" and > it would be extremely hard to trick a player into actually using one of such > words at that specific place in the sentence. > --000e0cd6ad040b311b0473172f5d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Apparently lindar had a similar idea (and got it up on lojban.org).=A0 Good idea to use jbotcan, lindar.=A0 Don'= t know why I hadn't thought of that.

http://www.lojban.org/tiki/le+nikyge%27u+s= elkei
http://jbotcan.org/jbo/res= /1096.html


On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at= 9:01 AM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
mi'u mi ai mi= 'e tijlan

A suggestion: how about having a taboo word or two that should not be forme= d in a certain subtle way? "bongu", for example:

i ba lo nu citka kei le gerku cu dansu
i oi ko na sutra lo ka carna=
i ne'a lo palta le gerku za= 'o traji lo ka carna
i g<= /b>e po'o nai mi gi ji'a ko jinme
i u'u bai do mi co'u mel= bi

The utterer of the last sentence beginning with "u"= (ignoring "i") gets eliminated.

This could be a strategic= trap into which one is led by other players working together to furtively prepare "bong-". But falling into t= hat wouldn't be very likely, for there aren't many jbovla beginning wit= h "u" and it would be extremely hard to trick a player into actuall= y using one of such words at that specific place in the sentence.

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