From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Sep 09 05:00:19 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlLqT-0008LO-HR for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:00:18 -0700 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlLqJ-0008HZ-Qr for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:00:15 -0700 Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so3071685fxm.34 for ; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:00:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7e6uhewLD7zWEZjtRW1Aui8LNRjhkpNRPPvYlaxNnrM=; b=L1ILZi/57cwAY2s9yWJ9cmcAGzUIVM7MCXPkC+AzCeg4isDfCh8oQKP7J9Ly2X7NJV ZrRrZF34oHqyEEW3W3cXauj8vYzABW2yJXazoQvAyMZ+yXrFhSrpJYLR8qbyxJSsHqMK wqBO672cMDGrr43rusjLZCf6V7ZXu1K815SIs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QjrAjNmHHaa8nMhx2NfrFKCZ3cNm+6OTXtk6G4EFqaVDRWBM7BWslHNkJ8T/4Fa4bN y6qJl/iaUKDoiPqYsWSl2Gpx87cBnEys7IATE/e4vNe+C5a+LjrVWCJqkSwCx6MKu1Qx RW++5lrJeUZ9HgCnSnAhAxWFluNAVVV9WJVaU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.144.85 with SMTP id y21mr173971fau.1.1252497601360; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:00:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D381BED8376@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> References: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D381BED8376@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:00:01 +0200 Message-ID: <52a782220909090500q52d106del668120740da308d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojban for beginners From: Alexandre Dezotti To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2261 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: dezotti.alexandre@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners 2009/9/9, Michael Eaton : > I'm going to try very hard not to sound acerbic, now (really, I am!) but it appears as though the unconscious sexist stereotyping is coming from you, rather than from the author of the examples. That you regard them as sexist seems, at least to me, to be your own unconscious expectation or expression of sexism. Also, I don't know a single woman who would haul a piano around when there were three men there to do it for her ;0) > > Apologies if that sounded in any way harsh; it is less than intentional. > > Well, you don't understand. I'm sorry having uncover your innate sexism, must be why you are angry. See, if in all books it is written that 'men carry heavy things' and 'women kiss' this is just telling everybody how they should be, and stinky sexist propaganda.