From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Sep 09 06:28:07 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlNDS-0000kH-LO for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:28:06 -0700 Received: from cluster-f.mailcontrol.com ([85.115.62.190]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlNDE-0000jV-6c for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:28:06 -0700 Received: from aeacus.blackpool.gov.uk (aeacus.blackpool.gov.uk [195.188.21.21]) by rly05f.srv.mailcontrol.com (MailControl) with ESMTP id n89DQGvH006454 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:27:37 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA3151.2B6F1A0E" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojban for beginners Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:26:42 +0100 Message-ID: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D381BED8379@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojban for beginners Thread-Index: AcoxUJJ0zN/JB6YwSRWRcy33uKPPWQAAF3WQ From: "Michael Eaton" To: X-Scanned-By: MailControl A-06-00-00 (www.mailcontrol.com) on 10.70.0.115 X-archive-position: 2266 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: michael.eaton@blackpool.gov.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA3151.2B6F1A0E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hear hear! Now, let's put this to bed and have a nice cup of [%beverage]. = =3DD -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lo= jban.org]On Behalf Of Nick Knack Sent: 09 September 2009 14:21 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojban for beginners Quite frankly, as a female, I'm offended that you find those sentences sexi= st. It's comments like yours that diminish real sexism. I'm sorry to be h= arsh, especially in my first reply to anything in this mailing list, but yo= u find fault where there is no fault and that is wrong. Men carry pianos and women kiss men, women also carry pianos just as men al= so kiss women. Women also kiss women and men also kiss men. We don't need= to point all of these examples out just to make everyone feel all warm and= fuzzy inside; thinking we need to do so is what I find demeaning. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Alexandre Dezotti < dezotti.alexandre@gmail= .com> wrote: >Now,I have to ask the question: Don't you have something productive to do = instead of >thinking up meaningless changes to other people's hard work? this is about cultural fact and not only personnal work. Indeed this is productive in view of social relationships, that you have not yet understood. http://www.blackpool.gov.uk/EmailDisclaimer/ This message has been scanned for inappropriate or malicious content as par= t of the Council's e-mail and Internet policies. =20 Click here t= o report this email as spam. http://www.blackpool.gov.uk/EmailDisclaimer/ This message has been scanned for inappropriate or malicious content as par= t of the Council's e-mail and Internet policies. ***************************************************************************= ***See the Blackpool You Tube video aimed at attracting French visitors by = clicking this link http://www.visitblackpool.com/jetaime ******************= ************************************************************ ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA3151.2B6F1A0E Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hear hear! Now, let's put this to bed and have a nice cup of= =20 [%beverage]. =3DD
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Quite frankly, as a female, I'm offende= d=20 that you find those sentences sexist.  It's comments like yours that= =20 diminish real sexism.  I'm sorry to be harsh, especially in m= y=20 first reply to anything in this mailing list, but you find fault where th= ere=20 is no fault and that is wrong.

Men carry pianos and women kiss men= ,=20 women also carry pianos just as men also kiss women.  Women also kis= s=20 women and men also kiss men.  We don't need to point all of these=20 examples out just to make everyone feel all warm and fuzzy inside; thinki= ng we=20 need to do so is what I find demeaning.

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Alexandre Dezott= i=20 <dezotti.alexandre@gmail.com>=20 wrote:
>Now,I have to ask the question: Don't you have some= thing=20 productive to do instead of >thinking up meaningless changes to othe= r=20 people's hard work?

this is about cultural fact and not on= ly=20 personnal work.
Indeed this is productive in view of social=20 relationships, that you
have not yet=20 understood.






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