From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 10 08:51:27 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mllvi-0005ef-PY for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:51:27 -0700 Received: from blu0-omc4-s21.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.160]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mllvd-0005dq-BY for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:51:26 -0700 Received: from BLU113-W25 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:51:15 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d636cbde-baaa-4e00-80a1-f63fe3b26062_" X-Originating-IP: [217.43.85.17] From: Sarah Leach To: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: kecti Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:51:14 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5715b9300909100844p3ec611a9hc8ee25e22b68175d@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300909100844p3ec611a9hc8ee25e22b68175d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2009 15:51:15.0419 (UTC) FILETIME=[875A0AB0:01CA322E] X-archive-position: 2292 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: icklecat92@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --_d636cbde-baaa-4e00-80a1-f63fe3b26062_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable how do i unsubscibe to this? This text is only blue when orcs are nearby =20 Date: Thu=2C 10 Sep 2009 11:44:24 -0400 Subject: [lojban-beginners] kecti From: lukeabergen@gmail.com To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Why does the x2 of {kecti} need to be a person? Can I not feel pity for a = dog? Similarly=2C though maybe a bit less arguable=2C does even the x1 nee= d to be a "person"? kecti kec ke'i pity x1 (person) p= ities/feels sorry for x2 (person) about x3 (abstraction) = 4c 23 (cf. cinmo=2C xendo) _________________________________________________________________ Learn how to add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/= --_d636cbde-baaa-4e00-80a1-f63fe3b26062_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable how do i unsubscibe to this?

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Date: Thu=2C 10 Sep 2009 11:44:24 -0400
Subject: [lojban-beginners] kect= i
From: lukeabergen@gmail.com
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org

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