From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 10 12:22:40 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlpE7-00017f-RF for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:22:40 -0700 Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com ([209.85.218.227]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlpE4-00016l-LS for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:22:39 -0700 Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so319421bwz.34 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:22:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rX8kIKthy7+Y/65C3NFsh4EbnhH7AJK7mVRnK7siXUc=; b=GJnYMG8JCkO+7Gf1U1J5YnKpAqPm8XdXNKx01Y3+0UxXJvn8cvogelf09565/qtH8c AfnpH3bmCf4iDBujVvxfHzWplpgJLMofrERlNB7SFMBBOTEi7gV4hEjp3xNGxX4+2Eix yGOvlFEsWaWohyGN3v9vdmAcNJG3blIl2NSp0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=M9YCx0Gk3v5QJS6qQf7dpFL4HkM0rrLSsOf2zB8fc4qWpM3nUZBQdf+jyWWM8+JijW 3DAnBQBmncmiyPXkZj5S1XbULAWMD9Xwy1kBKBIi3vOdLOfWiYIqCc1NwIe5FJfbBi+x GzP1VmOQ0AE7EBdDQl03j0qVC8Pmh93v+ikfw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.130.28 with SMTP id 28mr202425hbh.22.1252610548681; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:22:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <925d17560909101211s22d744eal62b4334ab6e2cc95@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300909100844p3ec611a9hc8ee25e22b68175d@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560909100948m252a3e8blf2d4989f3b199787@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300909101010j57bdbc72xd3a4975394fb418e@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560909101029o5116775bmc8754ebba922b866@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300909101037s1431f0cahffbc0733e7d9b973@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560909101047r768c7699u7ced9fd918b6e078@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300909101124o7a2ae957o1ea18621f6084169@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560909101155h53926fe6x292aaf650a21186a@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300909101203w1e1a0360h6c447cbc11d87376@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560909101211s22d744eal62b4334ab6e2cc95@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:22:28 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 253a42614beeba29 Message-ID: <12d58c160909101222t1645618fuc5dbf69ac1afc7e0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: kecti From: "komfo,amonan" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f6c75ccbcb9904733e1edc X-archive-position: 2304 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: komfoamonan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --001485f6c75ccbcb9904733e1edc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2009/9/10 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Luke Bergen > wrote: > > but even then, would a proper lojbanization of that english be somethin= g > > like {mi kecti lo tricu lo nu ri farlu gi'e na seltrina} > > If you feel sorry for the trees, yes. But if it's the falling you feel > sorry for, i.e. if you feel that it is bad for the falling that nobody > hears it, because then some people might claim it didn't make any > noise, and surely that's bad for its status, then I would put the > event in x2. It might be a good idea to restrict the x2 to objects in the definition. Speakers will put any sumti they like in there with creative/poetical license. mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan --001485f6c75ccbcb9904733e1edc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2009/9/10 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas = <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> but even then, would a proper lojbanization of that english be somethi= ng
> like {mi kecti lo tricu lo nu ri farlu gi'e na seltrina}

If you feel sorry for the trees, yes. But if it's the falling you= feel
sorry for, i.e. if you feel that it is bad for the falling that nobody
hears it, because then some people might claim it didn't make any
noise, and surely that's bad for its status, then I would put the
event in x2.

It might be a good idea to restrict the x= 2 to objects in the definition. Speakers will put any sumti they like in th= ere with creative/poetical license.

mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan

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