From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 10 18:40:51 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mlv83-0007BZ-QE for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:40:51 -0700 Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.78.142]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mlv7v-0007AP-7E for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:40:46 -0700 Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n8B1eKtD025713 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:40:20 -0400 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id d.cf0.62dad752 (41809) for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:40:19 -0400 (EDT) From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:40:19 EDT Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: kecti To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cf0.62dad752.37db0483_boundary" X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-archive-position: 2307 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --part1_cf0.62dad752.37db0483_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/10/2009 11:47:47 Eastern Daylight Time, lukeabergen@gmail.com writes: > Why does the x2 of {kecti} need to be a person? Can I not feel pity for > a dog? Similarly, though maybe a bit less arguable, does even the x1 need > to be a "person"? > > kecti kec ke'i pity x1 (person) > pities/feels sorry for x2 (person) about x3 (abstraction) > 4c 23 (cf. cinmo, xendo) > > > I don't know about other people, but I take those parenthetical comments as perhaps a typical usage, but not mandatory. stevo --part1_cf0.62dad752.37db0483_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a messag= e dated 9/10/2009 11:47:47 Eastern Daylight Time, lukeabergen@gmail.com wr= ites:


Why does the x2 of {kec= ti} need to be a person?  Can I not feel pity for a dog?  Simila= rly, though maybe a bit less arguable, does even the x1 need to be a "pers= on"?

kecti kec     ke'i pity     &= nbsp;           &nb= sp;            = ;        x1 (person) pities/feels= sorry for x2 (person) about x3 (abstraction)     &nbs= p;            =           4c  23 &n= bsp;  (cf. cinmo, xendo)




I don't know about other people, but I take those parenthetical commen= ts as perhaps a typical usage, but not mandatory.  

stevo --part1_cf0.62dad752.37db0483_boundary--