From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Sep 14 01:35:28 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 14 Sep 2009 01:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mn71z-0003Lt-NX for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 01:35:28 -0700 Received: from mail-iw0-f201.google.com ([209.85.223.201]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mn71v-0003L9-Th for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 01:35:27 -0700 Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so1243005iwn.25 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 01:35:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TWl5XAETP3ZtLR1CqS4feT8N7cMPuwgrLh60itDe5Ek=; b=wmIvexUivcRclpKTwsJV6D/Tt/X4yTv8bl73Lgp+29arAtOMm8GaSBp94kjIT+I61G zOSvpy1Eglf9Yd9W5J35FE1iIgP0UQdW48+wNvbarVrL/e+PvnxUQkt7TvZWDui7tb4F jj//7vpBc6fxtV48DRRZmMg1PEl/1qVagUWBE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dyFYcqQK6CgK4kdg0bgBCJt6ZMTMSKlzAYlEA0BKYJfnrrddiRVzleGuXvhmIUz1An BG50GNTjOJCSTENJ+ZQOXeuZq8+R331bPwG51T2y9+A497/Pq8cp4e2ERTTLl6wOSYwe 64hxT1qVQfJ/RPlJEwzS3CXiOnNNmsZvic3oU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.22.38 with SMTP id l38mr12684514ibb.34.1252917316916; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 01:35:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <399260.69436.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <399260.69436.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:35:16 -0400 Message-ID: <425e4ac20909140135o3acae463ke505f991b6a83043@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: gusni-opportunity-bringing along From: Stela Selckiku To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 2317 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: selckiku@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Tom wrote: > > After about 8 months virtually without an internetconnection or computer, > I can continue my lojban learning again. Welcome back! > 1. gusni : energy x1 illumines x2 via light source x3 > What could possibly go into the x1 place? I can't think of anyhthing sensible. Hmm perhaps "lo carmi cu gusni", an intense thing is light, the light is intense. Hmm what else does light do, well as it says it's energy, so you could say "lo nejni cu gusni", an energy is light. I think it would make sense to say that some light is beautiful, so you could say "lo melbi cu gusni", a beautiful something is light. > 2.Trying to translate: > "I had the opportunity of bringing cigars along." (to a party) > I can't find anything for "opportunity", or "being in a position to" or the like. Any suggestions? What comes to my mind is the gismu "kakne". A kakne is someone who's able to do something, the selka'e is what they're able to do, and the terka'e is under what circumstances they're able to. > "bringing cigars along": would "lo nu tebevri lo sigja" work? I don't think you need the "te"; it just slightly changes the emphasis. I would just say "mi kakne lo nu bevri lo sigja [le se zvati be le te salci]", I'm able to bring cigars [to the place where the party's at]. > Thanks for all help. je'e .i ko snada (I hear you. Succeed!) mu'o