From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 17 02:35:03 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MoDOJ-0004g2-4w for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:35:03 -0700 Received: from mail-yx0-f196.google.com ([209.85.210.196]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MoDOF-0004co-RK for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:35:02 -0700 Received: by yxe34 with SMTP id 34so1296195yxe.16 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:34:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Bz4sXWQKkKWGa58RXNV33DQpS+zxkQogDixb97cdg8c=; b=NsH8eH/tQZIyFjA3BmCdf27EiuiMQ/QreVlSd55IYGr2CqAzoWRSk34LSYMnBr/JVF f5NiCRLa0x0nq+xC7+o7eO/04scg/Uc9AI+oV5l4aWPfyClg2rcOhQq9ITGN3bljH+xB Rxii9hI0dyzkVNQI+0Yjq7jnMQfByLIZgE0Sg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vjUk09K/pWK6fKqwp4FvmVt7zyg1QYRMrjljhWCUeJEPqQSUvk5D89+fJE2vz6VZ8N sE39HdU4zepBW7zWvc1SOVe1JEwJkzoawqnrzRCzZJPBJa0hM+WznLvugJsVkP28Q2Tn gmGEj6jzx/aZiDyaowV00tZhGlhPYKYQgUD/E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.105.3 with SMTP id h3mr273616agm.6.1253180093411; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:34:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <916765.91562.qm@web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5a3750120909160909p69600a96pe4a6ebd0bb8c621b@mail.gmail.com> <916765.91562.qm@web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:34:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: gusni From: Thomas Jack To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 2356 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: thomasjack@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Tom wrote: > > It does feel like an awkward x1 place. After all, what is the 'energy' of > light? 'Light' itself of course, light IS energy. So probably the best way to > fill the x1 is with 'lo gusni' (as in: "lo gusni cu gusni lo mi flira" - the > light shines on my face) but that seems ridiculous. We can fill the x1 with > properties of the light, which has been done so far (lo kandi, lo xunre), but > they're not the energy itself, there indeed just properties. How is this awkward? Light IS energy, so isn't this exactly the x1 you would expect for {gusni}? {lo gusni} wouldn't mean "the light" otherwise.