From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 17 12:06:09 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MoMIy-0001hh-AD for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:06:08 -0700 Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com ([209.85.218.211]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MoMIt-0001gu-5N for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:06:07 -0700 Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so244757bwz.34 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:05:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=w8C3aS5tzzqq/9OQecpP3GLHp9eausO/8xNPLIZSmwQ=; b=Z198dmMMaXvc48y0IpVbl2DeQmodejtja6TrdRowsNdvQ3V3TzZrV3DJy6yxxraYYA DZAd2X+bfIrsKPblhJ9GelR8PoFvnTRHXvl5xalMGoDFNnMpKOh5ICn5XctgSbxgITYb 51Il1Q7/nZH2D8a7uhhkbT+CiZEEMKVALIcGM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XPlQPEu0BhsDaKA+AkWPwdI1htT/CHgkgsqcLJDvueEaJhb1NpY1+2keV2j4L/rkjy ohaC6WRtEV1eNuB5KcbgmL5gQYrHoTkNwVyj5s1jdJVS4a/szoR0/xpm9EcCmRkGyFZl rOXaMLr+iaL8lgQthPcywgzULVvcRuIv16w2k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.3.4 with SMTP id 4mr207659fal.30.1253214356290; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:05:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:05:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: gusni From: Ivo Doko To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 2364 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ivo.doko@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners 2009/9/17 : > In a message dated 9/17/2009 14:46:09 Eastern Daylight Time, > ivo.doko@gmail.com writes: > > > 2009/9/17 Arnt Richard Johansen : >> "lo navni cu ga'u gusni mi lo tubnu" doesn't work either, because in >> actuality neon emits light, but in this example you are asserting that it >> _is_ light. > > > Wait... what? Light is a stream of neons. Although one neon isn't what > we would usually call a "stream", it still *is* light. Neons don't > emit light, they *are* light. > > > Neon is the tenth chemical element, one of the noble elements. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon > > I think you mean "photons", the particles which make up light. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photons > > Perhaps you are thinking of neon signs. Such signs are called that, not > because they give off their own light, but because they use neon gas to give > off light. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_sign > > stevo Oh my stupid sleepy brain, of course I meant photons... x-| Sorry.