From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 17 23:38:59 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MoX7S-0007SU-Ua for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:38:59 -0700 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.146]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MoX7N-0007SH-Lu for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:38:58 -0700 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so239460eyh.36 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:38:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=bQJNgflxnray8aUpSfVpSeBDf5GrpfhBWbD2GQfkhgM=; b=qRlmyzdfavwNX+l1Vll4THTlnAlaroHZjAam11IPhPJMGbnDKws0rkXkNAjCOw3eBU m5CXFEYt5H9TVfbz1/Wk1oZsJEixZHSNn5DNNnHSiAVo9ojDcF4kaNKacWb2ZEVC+TKY GHh9azDcfzgyc2Xs7FDJoc4grOxHBpNhNQDXA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Cprc89qGwQQr8R9xueotuCgguBledkltbZGsRxl3/32+oU1yKaT3bSvrmKLU0XUigg to7J0i+LC1UPEFLHvGUnCueBO4BwJcylo49otoKI4G8jdlVNzDMw3u4ZSG868rsqeb0q NeSHCAdHM4e1PO2pxMPGJ8BawcBKKjJUXsbgY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.211.172.11 with SMTP id z11mr616543ebo.93.1253255931191; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:38:51 +1000 Message-ID: <85c354a20909172338o37b5251t8c633da90d50b5c4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] The solar system From: Ross Ogilvie To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502cb659760430473d46253 X-archive-position: 2370 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: oges007@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --00504502cb659760430473d46253 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 coi rodo, I've been looking around the lojban wiki and I was wondering a few things. The Solar System (http://jbo.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=solri_ciste) in particular strikes me as poor word-for-word translated name. My questions are thus: 1. What does {ciste} actually mean? The definition > x1 (mass) system interrelated by structure x2 among components > x3 (set) displaying x4 (ka). > is a bit opaque. What are some examples of its use? 2. Would something like {loi plini be lo solri} be a better name for the solar system? Or perhaps something based on {girzu} (group)? 3. What do people think of the lojban wikipedia? Is is a good place to practice reading (by which I mean is the use of lojban usually at a good standard)? Thanks mu'o mi'e ros. --00504502cb659760430473d46253 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable coi rodo,

I've been looking around the lojban wiki and I was won= dering a few things. The Solar System (http://jbo.wikipedia.org= /w/index.php?title=3Dsolri_ciste) in particular strikes me as poor word= -for-word translated name. My questions are thus:

1. What does {ciste} actually mean? The definition
x1 (mass) system interrelated by = structure x2 among components
x3 (set) displaying x4 (ka).
is a bit opaque. W= hat are some examples of its use?

2. Would something like {loi plini= be lo solri} be a better name for the solar system? Or perhaps something b= ased on {girzu} (group)?

3. What do people think of the lojban wikipedia? Is is a good place to = practice reading (by which I mean is the use of lojban usually at a good st= andard)?

Thanks
mu'o mi'e ros.
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