From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Sep 28 10:09:41 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MsJjJ-0005CL-LZ for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:09:41 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.123]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MsJjF-0005B8-CO for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:09:41 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090928170930553.SDVE26368@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:09:30 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F8CA2AF for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:09:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: klama vs. litru Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:09:26 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <8ACC341D-55A8-4AE8-BEFA-04CFB310ADE1@choi.name> <7f1d42860909280852x6bc9cb0cnd93ed5620469156f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7f1d42860909280852x6bc9cb0cnd93ed5620469156f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909281309.28016.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-archive-position: 2421 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Monday 28 September 2009 11:52:03 Ryan Leach wrote: > And how does muvdu enter into this little number too, since we're asking? > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Joshua Choi wrote: > > The baseline definition of litru is: "x1 travels/journeys/goes/moves via > > route x2 using means/vehicle x3. x1 is a traveller." klama also means "x1 > > is a traveller" in the baseline, but includes two more sumti. > > > > When should I use litru, and when should I use klama? If you go from one place to another, do klama. If you go around in circles, or go sightseeing without intending to end up in a particular place, do litru. As to "muvdu", it has a route, but no vehicle. I'm not sure why it's there. pu le nu tavla le gugdrnubi* ke djini jitro kei la filipos. muvdu la actod. le dargu zi'o *Traditionally "Ethiopian", but Candace was Nubian. Pierre