From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Oct 30 06:36:15 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N3reF-0000xW-54 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:36:13 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.122]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N3reB-0000wZ-I2 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:36:10 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091030133558815.JMNI2056@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:35:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87A6BD25 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:35:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Quizlet problems Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:35:52 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <199799.90127.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <7f1d42860910300117p783a4d07s107bb08bca743531@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930910300508l5e231aa7hc1cd83da541d24e7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930910300508l5e231aa7hc1cd83da541d24e7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200910300935.54638.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-archive-position: 2497 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Friday 30 October 2009 08:08:49 tijlan wrote: > A cmene is something that the gadri "la" makes. "la" can be attached > to e.g. "jbobau" or "lojban". So both "la jbobau" and "la lojban" are > cmene. The difference is of course the thing to which the gadri is > attached, i.e. selgadri. "jbobau" has a consonant cluster and ends > with a vowel, that is the definition for brivla. "lojban" ends with a > consonant, that is the definition for cmevla. Both brivla and cmevla > are no cmene without "la". Also you can attach "la" to a phrase, such as "la kolmba sovda stedu" or "la kot.diVUAR". The latter phrase is two cmevla, but one cmene. ta'o la kolmba sovda stedu cu du la linto ji la gusni? Pierre -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa