From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Nov 06 09:38:34 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:38:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N6Sld-00025J-JW for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:38:34 -0800 Received: from mail-ew0-f216.google.com ([209.85.219.216]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N6SlZ-00024x-Hz for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:38:32 -0800 Received: by ewy12 with SMTP id 12so1343145ewy.0 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:38:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9/btmPe1n8ozUlXGcVRWX6rjt+zM9ygPZN3mggVbmKQ=; b=LG0OM8MazH0TQtMXorpBbGUV2hyrgjmKMMueGb8Xhs/7lB1x1jxnHD7RifdoAXzo6a x+45o2rxozV0PKrnRYdogsbasrfxPui1ADhAwVcUmbZP/MwVdUJqRtqkEH6o2CzKhjoH 90tzRh4jM3Ci5Ban1BpVq7zZh8Y5J5oxZkEKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NQgV6XoWFwpOG17GwDXS7ZGO6L7t5KR6dS44fEkcj65UHy26ra//rm33RbYwbjVlXa 7aLy90PLgsGH/RoQta+XEyyMiyRxqU519WqVORVPH6oYg3SMkzuWe0UUsv9VnTEQ2fvW hssJ4wUV49noxg3c0ZuvDDI848z9CIkOOCOzI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.93.70 with SMTP id k48mr1548821wef.134.1257529102749; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:38:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:38:22 -0800 Message-ID: <7f1d42860911060938v45138b38xfa686f4e6e935de5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] How do I say these things in lojban From: Ryan Leach To: lojban-beginners Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2548 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rsw.leach@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners I have some clarifications I was hoping people could help me with. I know that if I want to say my dog, then I say-- le mi gerku and if I want to say your dog, I think I would say le do gerku how do I say Dave's dog? i don't think that I would use the same format, because Dave is a cmene and it would need a 'la' and would it vary for something more abstract like a writing trick like "Chekhov's gun" - - - - Also how would I say this- "If you cannot understand then you obey only by chance" I know that "you understand" should be-- do jimpe and I think that "you cannot understand" would be -- do na ka'e jimpe "If" is giving me real trouble though. I also am uncertain if I need to use a "then" and if I do, I am uncertain as to what it is. Perhaps I just need to seperate the two parts with an -- .i - - - - Also I would like to be able to say this--- "repeat the procedure until I return" repeat is-- rapli return is -- xruti procedure isn't in jbovlaste however and finding words such as until are very difficult - - - - Thanks for the assist Guys -- “Nothing bothers me more than sloth. The objective is to fix mistakes of ambition and not make mistakes of sloth. I work my ass off.” -Tim Ferriss