From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Dec 03 15:52:31 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:52:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGLTK-0006Fa-Vz for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:52:31 -0800 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.148]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGLTF-0006Dl-VA; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:52:30 -0800 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so466014eyh.36 for ; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:52:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=peWoZyv6JC9aVDB69L7SMxggZO43STYVZouqQHpVfRk=; b=e2eK85NhwzsOeJO0veFPuRLNXP1A/u714c0oJv+sb1zFmSwWXyEPHUeyOA9iVUfa// hbAr4SsDYyZHuBYBFDKmarDZtBG4p+bACaxJxx8e3ifIYLvW+9sKef2UkpNVpCTAemhW usRgN+zVnqu/OcdaD9dYWVhx1XH+MU1Mj/nUg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CptKsqz6ayQdvxzA4rjIg+zQPGDe4gnt2JIjbq3bJw1+lu1H5N3UhfbUsUWfxpyFj/ Ng6h+Zj0mZ63eScroDrQm7oCZmjliuqFp1a3bQFidmXAqxNL9YR93IH+iMz7TEUd0BL7 bVLdrtJ965DwJj5gsgY/5xIWCd6BHKemu1H2g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.135 with SMTP id w7mr768249wee.176.1259884342884; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:52:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <702226df0912031545r6cd4c3b3q49f773eb306ad17d@mail.gmail.com> References: <702226df0912031545r6cd4c3b3q49f773eb306ad17d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 17:52:22 -0600 Message-ID: <702226df0912031552q7f7fb0a1y5f8b8b9f05049b7d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Smart.fm and Lojban From: "Jon \"Top Hat\" Jones" To: lojban-list@lojban.org, lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d64956b73a1e0479dbae53 X-archive-position: 2596 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0016e6d64956b73a1e0479dbae53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Addendum: I've added the alphabetically first gismu, bacru, to the lesson to provide an example of what the entries would look like. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: > I've decided to add the gismu as a lesson on Smart.fm, and I wanted to > discuss this with rodo. > > First, I'd like to invite anyone interested in helping to complete the > lesson to do so. I'm not certain how collaboration works, but I do know it's > possible. > > Second, I have a question as to formatting for the individual items, that > being, which entry method would be better for learners? > > 1) All-inclusive, i.e.: > > Item: > text: klama > translation: x1 travels to x2 from x3 via route x4 by means of x5 > > 2) Individual, i.e.: > > Item: > text: lo klama > translation: A traveller > > Item: > text: lo se klama > translation: A traveller's origin > > Item: > text: lo te klama > translation: A traveller's destination > > Item: > text: lo ve klama > translation: A route travelled > > Item: > text: lo xe klama > translation: A method of travelling > > 3) Both 1 and 2. > > Lastly, seeing as Smart.fm's English text-to-speech will incorrectly > pronounce Lojban words, and assuming that no language pronounces things > exactly as Lojban does, audio needs to be recorded for each entry so that > learners hear the words as they are meant to be heard. So, should each > contributor record the audio for the entries s/he contributes, or should one > person be selected to do all the audio? > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --0016e6d64956b73a1e0479dbae53 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Addendum: I've added the alphabetically first gismu, bacru, to the less= on to provide an example of what the entries would look like.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Jon "Top Hat"= ; Jones <eyeonus@= gmail.com> wrote:
I've decided = to add the gismu as a lesson on Smart.fm, and I wanted to discuss this with= rodo.

First, I'd like to invite anyone interested in helping to complete = the lesson to do so. I'm not certain how collaboration works, but I do = know it's possible.

Second, I have a question as to formatting for the individual items, th= at being, which entry method would be better for learners?

1) All-in= clusive, i.e.:

Item:
text: klama
translation: x1 travels to x2= from x3 via route x4 by means of x5

2) Individual, i.e.:

Item:
text: lo klama
translation: A t= raveller

Item:
text: lo se klama
translation: A traveller'= s origin

Item:
text: lo te klama
translation: A traveller's destination

Item:
text: lo ve klama
translation: A route travelled

Item:
text: lo xe klama
translation: A method of travelling

3) Both 1 and 2.

Lastly, = seeing as Smart.fm's English text-to-speech will incorrectly pronounce = Lojban words, and assuming that no language pronounces things exactly as Lo= jban does, audio needs to be recorded for each entry so that learners hear = the words as they are meant to be heard. So, should each contributor record= the audio for the entries s/he contributes, or should one person be select= ed to do all the audio?

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le = bende pe denpa bu




--
mu'o mi'= e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu

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