From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Dec 04 07:10:00 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 04 Dec 2009 07:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGZnD-0001Sx-AO for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 07:10:00 -0800 Received: from mail-yx0-f202.google.com ([209.85.210.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGZn5-0001Qd-9l for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 07:09:56 -0800 Received: by yxe40 with SMTP id 40so2306901yxe.28 for ; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 07:09:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=XyR7mbBFunHDDMRWTKCAwq/ModDjWmVx5kdQBsfQAxs=; b=YImQ9N6PlW2guEWVcJfHnLTlVBM8+ZG2L1N8J98Qiuym33c5M8BIZebKafeMwFCjw3 cdobab7vsjncpHc1h6N5vfM2bVWUMNkvSSFxoP+EZb+/KvMXwPo9LFHeJzVi0CgLRnsv DMVmiXHnHOA1qv943X3dz6bnNKnfYHpZvmm+g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=ZdXgj9aBrS8LsjfLniQMXXp8XvUVrYKY9C4CoNZ+ULSDPUl5jlNtQzeKVeAShIp6vF REj558LIy8LheCsVC6NAzkNmV43RFEMVonv+ZGYla4kKJ5djX9+Z0rU+M2I/JrhvqQCs 42CKDSltzqZOHbK0W3ihI85i3HlcnYpI+mDWE= Received: by 10.101.143.10 with SMTP id v10mr3888103ann.170.1259939384915; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 07:09:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-10-132-220-77.uawifi.arizona.edu (uawifi-nat-210-16.arizona.edu [150.135.210.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm1563226yxd.17.2009.12.04.07.09.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 04 Dec 2009 07:09:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <6FC97B65-B3CB-485D-B486-D4C1DD62C169@choi.name> From: Joshua Choi To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <925d17560912040453p3437d713h1fb73b017f5e2ced@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: The /.../ operator in the Lojban EBNF grammar Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:09:42 -0700 References: <925d17560912040453p3437d713h1fb73b017f5e2ced@mail.gmail.com> X-archive-position: 2605 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: joshua@choi.name Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Excellent; I had know idea that there are PEGs for both syntax and morphology (I was going to ask about the latter too)! Thanks for the links. On 4 December 2009, at 5:53 AM, Jorge Llambías wrote: > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Joshua Choi wrote: >> Does it have a consistent syntactic meaning across the >> grammar, or is it really case-by-case? Can it be converted into a >> more >> standard EBNF syntax? > > It's informal. The only complete formal grammar for Lojban is the PEG > grammar, see: > > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/lojban/grammar/lojban.peg.txt > > The EBNF is written in a more human-friendly way though, so the PEG > will be easier to follow once you are already familiar with the EBNF. > > The PEG also goes all the way down to the phonemes: > > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK%20Section%3A%20PEG%20Morphology%20Algorithm > > which the EBNF doesn't do at all. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > >