From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Dec 10 14:05:02 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:05:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NIr89-0007fa-Nf for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:05:02 -0800 Received: from mail-yx0-f202.google.com ([209.85.210.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NIr84-0007bO-7h for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:05:00 -0800 Received: by yxe40 with SMTP id 40so273576yxe.28 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:04:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N6f63G3utCrLbkHKTbiiMD0aLU+mHyNtEjz/6I4tl9U=; b=vaWUfWpr/4KV7H5LHEKoXR69fNWVP17HiTGd8yk4DFOI4gTAvHudWdXiEifjP+hy+y aal8INknyDz3c6OAdpuhDJCv41sZDtVPrsehC5mebssfFL30xqXH4R/U4opqnLM0th+Q AIaj+edPrD3yHmGIHWeKkDz8uJtTsZwf03VWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=t/w6OAOC2xjK90Hx8FqDbkLObk3LmJPdz2pZgVVqTksEqlV8yHg4akD4g4VJSGJEEy BKe+nLLJD4MhlJVFWOTctzjCD/FtZrDEzuCvxx7tlWxulzR5uYbdxh168ae5B2/Ef7f1 LEfhEwQymiYOPQTIDXVdZppZIRzDb1B8qOgUI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.8.38 with SMTP id 38mr786489agh.58.1260482689927; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:04:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <925d17560912101349u1b601d8i299215cf294c57a7@mail.gmail.com> References: <429fde40912101249s24079419g2804c566b311b2a2@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560912101349u1b601d8i299215cf294c57a7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:04:49 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f224d22a38b0a5af Message-ID: <429fde40912101404r706c4013v97f671b66e0afae@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: On units and mekso From: Joshua Choi To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2638 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: joshua@choi.name Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Ah, when I said "to the second power" I was applying it to "seconds" only, not "two seconds". Should have clarified, sorry. Thanks for the answer. But then there's no way to express that sentence as a mekso like "li ci pi'i li mu fe'i li re du ze pi mu"? That's a shame; using mekso would be considerably more readable and concise. I wonder how difficult it would be to add grammar rules for suffixing or prefixing numbers with units. Though whoever is working on the spec probably has more important things to worry about. 2009/12/10 Jorge Llambías : > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Joshua Choi wrote: >> From my limited knowledge of Lojban, it seems that a Lojban speaker is >> able to express units only using certain selbri, such as grake and >> bunda for mass. How, then, would you best express this in Lojban? >> >>  3 kilograms times 5 metres divided by 2 seconds to the second power >> equals 7.5 Newtons. > > lo pilji be lo ki'ogra be li 3 be'o bei lo dilcu be lo mitre be li 5 > be'o bei lo tenfa be lo snidu be li 2 be'o bei li 2 cu du lo > klanrniutoni be li 7.5 > > Only it's actually 3.75 newtons. :) > >> Can units be attached to number quantities at all? > > mekso are not a very developed part of the language. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > >