From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Dec 21 11:23:12 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NMnqZ-0000Xi-QN for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:23:12 -0800 Received: from mail-pw0-f47.google.com ([209.85.160.47]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NMnqC-0000Oo-Vh for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:22:52 -0800 Received: by pwi1 with SMTP id 1so3906134pwi.26 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:22:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RlPocmJ5kI60JFcrL+trryVx63Zgdw76XyL7S0blA7s=; b=Av+S3lPVrg2MXO+UYyD/Cu9PWySIA/Ln/DmIS29kb1zUe8O+qlzBw/iFPDtOhqeZ3S CAd4mjhI6wr7E/+Vo7JiXp829p33itZRSboxyj1AxfBJHkHTflmqtE0gt5CPDlGMxRRg z1l9U/nxuVD43PKc9Hq1jCZlvBrU2wYB4I7AA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QtwhZViZJuOJei31tvUdhveL+tNp5GHEWwC6GxzIS0NNm53Kt6uPxWMJff1IscsBE7 iYJpD6eMtOxjDdxFy0inbJb0PqSUqUcH+YkzVfpwZjWNkNrOpr9XGsFeEcHXW7kpSGV8 VKFcyLvi8jjUZ34sASma2htb1NZgjTZUD0YTc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.248.40 with SMTP id v40mr4998638wfh.203.1261423362811; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:22:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200912211327.37550.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <230918.3024.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <33073.79.75.29.254.1261327629.squirrel@mailgate.denbridgemarine.com> <27513e550912201755p5b49a95dg224f022e030644ed@mail.gmail.com> <200912211327.37550.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:22:42 -0500 Message-ID: <96f789a60912211122g130717c8ja5edfa04d77a0825@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Site for beginners was: vlatai and logflash From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2691 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > There's a standard sentence-glossing format among linguists: You write a > sentence in the language being studied, then translate each morpheme, putting > cmavo and their rafsi in caps. I'd like to see this done to Lojban sentences, > or in Lojban to sentences of other languages. E.g.: > > i le nu se citka cu funca le tordu sastu'u lacpu > SENT.SEP DEF EVENT PASS2 eat PRED.MARK luck.of DEF short grass-tube pull > The event of being eaten is the luck of the short straw puller. > > On ?tiras à la courte paille pour savoir qui serait mangé. > INDEF.PRON pull-PAST.2SING at/to DEF-FEM short-FEM straw for know-INF who > be-COND-3SING eat-PP-MASC > Someone pull the short straw to know who would be eaten. > If I had seen those notations when I wanted to start learning lojban, I'd have been out the revolving door so fast, the wind would have knocked over even la nikyge'u. Think middle/junior high schooler, not graduate student in linguistics, Pierre, to make things more friendly. --gejyspa