From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Dec 23 13:42:39 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:42:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NNYyc-0005xV-2N for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:42:39 -0800 Received: from mailgate.denbridgemarine.com ([83.104.25.50]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NNYyO-0005mu-Vp for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:42:30 -0800 Received: by mailgate.denbridgemarine.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id D035A6049EE; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:42:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 79.67.21.177 by mailgate.denbridgemarine.com with HTTP; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:42:22 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <33381.79.67.21.177.1261604542.squirrel@mailgate.denbridgemarine.com> In-Reply-To: <908274.37912.qm@web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <230918.3024.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200912231312.13521.colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com> <82471.28871.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200912231813.32395.colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com> <908274.37912.qm@web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:42:22 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Site for beginners. From: "Colin Wright" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2722 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners > I guess we've both said all we can say. > Time to end this :) Possibly, although the way you say that it sounds like you disagree, but don't want to prolong what you see as an argument. I certainly hope you *don't* feel that way, because I believe you have a lot to offer, and I believe that without some sort of effort like this the language to which I've given quite a lot of time to on and off over the last 15 years really will just limp along and eventually die. I want to see your ideas, I want to see what you think beginners should be given, I want to see how *you* think and react and will use facilities. I want to see how this can be made to work. It's just that I also know how much work is involved, and I want to find a practical and effective way to make it happen. In some ways I hope this is the beginning of the next phase. I can't make it happen, but maybe you can. mi'e kolin. -- Denbridge Marine Limited may monitor email traffic data and the content of email for the purposes of security and staff training. Denbridge Marine Limited. Registered in England and Wales at DSG, 43 Castle St, Liverpool. L2 9TL. Registered Number 4850477