From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Feb 19 16:48:53 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:48:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NidWe-0007li-KG for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:48:53 -0800 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.152]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NidWX-0007f4-KC for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:48:49 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so232201fgb.10 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:48:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qxCQ5Q03Kc7VTWXn+t+hiUjxh3A1ah/Bi2kpop44Blo=; b=kTaD3hV/hctf6VwSnUW0IU4b8lmCP0bF/YeTOBFl+IJa8iO6oSSvDsgoM8aa+ED7pi wG6dOXoBTIz0DukGeqYXqw2ugBueJX3061VS9HGJBFB0FKv/4D9wLjWi2E5kUucAGA+R HwFfIVoXTxGgIiOInMVBF48jl1JHsMF3HtUFk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OmV45auhsosnxLlzo4RU6EA1uEyaSuXbkp7hgF8SlPlpq05OUUQDDv2AYK0hybgGKB e1dgzTF2HESBnbfjqNZRRWP+BLQoQu3Lj0Rwv3KZcAHlYXXoT0fBP7L/3YC37vz/rzPn 1+Oia545qpH3f+u6uWt8r0as3VBh0rTs9iSIU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.191.132 with SMTP id b4mr1263785hbi.33.1266626924162; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:48:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1f1080831002191639m14515b3fibe33935505caade@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f1080831002181721w425a462dpd6cdae84a97b4d0f@mail.gmail.com> <20100219014246.GY19917@digitalkingdom.org> <1f1080831002181825s174b3e2dicc8251571742e6dd@mail.gmail.com> <1f1080831002191639m14515b3fibe33935505caade@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:48:44 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7bb54163751d87f3 Message-ID: <12d58c161002191648t46d17b97p6350352215b70552@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Not needing terminators From: "komfo,amonan" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2857 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: komfoamonan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > To verify that I actually do get this, here's another sentence I wrote today: > mi nupre lonu lonu do spuda lo preti befi mi kei na'e ba nandu do kei do > The intention is "I promise you the question(s) I ask will not be > difficult for you to answer". (This is intentionally somewhat clunky > so I could make sure I knew what I was doing). I'm pretty sure it > actually does it right this time. > > This seems to also be what jbofi'e says: > [1(2[nupre1 (promise-r(s)) :] mi I, me)2 [is, does] «3nupre > promis-ing»3 (4[nupre2 (promised thing(s)) :] lo any/some <5nu > event(s) of [6(7[nandu1 (difficulty thing(s)) :] lo any/some <8nu > event(s) of [9(10[spuda1 (answer-er(s)) :] do you)10 [is, does] > «11spuda answer-ing»11 (12[spuda2 (stimulus(es)) :] lo any/some > {13preti question(s) be   (14[preti3 (questioner(s)) :] fi   mi I, > me)14}13)12]9 kei  >8)7 [is, does] «15na'e not ba will be nandu being > difficulty»15 (16[nandu2 (thing(s) hav-ing difficulty) :] do you)16]6 > kei  >5)4 (17[nupre3 (thing(s) receiving promise) :] do you)17]1 > > Am I reading it correctly this time? Yes, that's correct. mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan