From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Feb 19 17:49:28 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:49:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NieTH-0004Fr-Jk for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:49:28 -0800 Received: from mail-ew0-f223.google.com ([209.85.219.223]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NieT7-00048r-GR for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:49:23 -0800 Received: by ewy23 with SMTP id 23so870676ewy.4 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:49:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OtMPgrUFmLUxUK4PxIgP+JkQue1sVeS22XD7/Z/06L4=; b=Q7zd4ZDzzsXVRiYF4Ch59QLY2LN5gjgfkAfqsBc0kHMSNllc9zVgpFvR982p/NWDnv c9RYVE5rgZNK4/6FrN4tlhzoMSTkqLzDJbk2zxpqE+lML9utcT3RaTeiZuZ9dHERQGWq BpnnT5d9AsIZRk+mH0VrlpN9BfH0ROk35NqtU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZJ4VIDPE6581TKebxUCvnEfrt0K3ztvYJSdNb64phEqJDRyDjqKsWDGbOzd+AwQI+Z p43ujwdZ/wMCJ41xxSGu2TRS/50ZJKQhiu5FzSQRWpq5f0GsTOx0gi7Nk2oeCf9MFasa oGXcd1WguuUXowZBkYZFtPD6wga2vk9Pk2iKA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.1.145 with SMTP id 17mr1537069ebf.46.1266630549706; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:49:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100220012854.GI19917@digitalkingdom.org> References: <1f1080831002181721w425a462dpd6cdae84a97b4d0f@mail.gmail.com> <20100219014246.GY19917@digitalkingdom.org> <1f1080831002181825s174b3e2dicc8251571742e6dd@mail.gmail.com> <1f1080831002191639m14515b3fibe33935505caade@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561002191722w12222fe7l2ebd9cc4a93a8b66@mail.gmail.com> <20100220012854.GI19917@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:49:09 -0500 Message-ID: <1f1080831002191749n2903ddabt95972b2abf3761d7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Not needing terminators From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2862 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: blindbravado@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners I know; as I said I intentionally made that a bit more clunky than was necessary to make sure I actually knew what I was doing here. (If I had really wanted to practice terminators I would've put every single one in.) I know there are better ways to do that; just from LfB I knew to use cu when possible. I really like that structure, though; that's considerably better than the not-clunky structure that I had in mind. By the way, you changed it to "ba na'e"; is there a word order for this sort of thing anywhere? mu'omi'e latros. On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:22:55PM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote: >> With "na" you don't need the first "kei", as "na" will force the >> closing of the second "lo nu". If you go with "ba na'e nandu", I >> find "cu ba na'e nandu" more clear than using "kei". > > Yeah, always use cu if you can. > > -Robin > > -- > They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm  thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something > other  than  the default  outcome?"  See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > > >