From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Feb 22 19:58:13 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NjluW-0004Fx-Jd for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:58:13 -0800 Received: from web32907.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.69.84]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NjluI-0003YW-0M for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:58:06 -0800 Received: (qmail 44946 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Feb 2010 03:57:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com.au; s=s1024; t=1266897471; bh=ccXPdYD5L4dKqs79hcxWsP6fsc9PFW6AfaFvj0jyX6A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JjcseUVComdQ9KuFGQNWxIfZQte0qOqhkDEdZgWYpJ3WtdsN8l6JN2GFqOtNolQNDEZppnuOZw2I+tN8PU0n/EysenVIl0MhsK1+8jnvbueNdoQ7zJ3MRdgp0yPcSjarHKYMMdz+IoAtWVNlCXDs7sGlYKjP+Df4MJItclFDps0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.au; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wGfy6e179bMJThooqwgVYBqbeh/CUR5QwyyQKB8PyFoK3g5dhsCS8rSF2lssyMZ3OqmJ5TORniP2EVCKyhqrLEpRyzfOB0HcAr6NXWqLKtlbSz+fwJlbP4muJ6yFfMT7oZ9weaHYAagpMcUJNw3wbUdkfbp1BvcFM6hUL2uH1dU=; Message-ID: <294668.44362.qm@web32907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: EgKAPCAVM1ny5Hb6uMbJUlCCe3h.Fj_LPMDuoYgM3Ru0VmVqInAszJ76FmD2xsLf1YKnR9RtvY5GcLedP.i5iPFQSNjjjXCR7yunUK5l4iffUORnKXjx0WsFNFATL8O36Uu3Giro9tLkij9s9tqCsdJPkUZ41Oxgc8geOjzfzKC9ptYJNpE1FVUMm9qr3R4NFMlkKfbEGNAohWPUHw_2bCs0aCmEyLth1aFpvhez.8CK2rMBv0AzmnJjDg3Pn_5FDJ9sl1s2ndDC9l.dyekGbac91cV.Ta5dwIIF.W1I3zLA22sN5bvUOVp.Wje0jC4OWhNii4qpQqZKKjhJeUMtmOHbd0QxlP0RJ9lYMr5iAGNolqCGH9PVhnJGjWt7OXl3D8x2 Received: from [124.176.58.229] by web32907.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:57:51 PST Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:57:51 -0800 (PST) From: Cebalo Jason Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Only one true dog To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <201002222249.26345.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2883 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jason_andrew_cebalo@yahoo.com.au Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Thanks Pierre, that helps alot Jason --- On Tue, 23/2/10, Pierre Abbat wrote: > From: Pierre Abbat > Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Only one true dog > To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org > Received: Tuesday, 23 February, 2010, 2:49 PM > On Monday 22 February 2010 22:10:24 > Cebalo Jason wrote: > > Sincere thanks to both Pierre and Ian. I was wondering > what would be wrong > > with "da po'o gerku"? A I understand it, "da" is the > existentetial x, so if > > "la faidos po'o gerku" mean "Fido is the only dog" > shouldn't "da po'o > > gerku" mean "there exists an x such that x is the only > dog? > > There's no quantifier. "da po'o gerku" means "there are > only some dogs", but > doesn't say how many there are, just that however many dogs > there are, those > are the only ones. As that's a rather pointless utterance, > "there are only > some dogs" is more likely to be interpreted as "tu'o gerku > po'o" (but > intonation matters in the English). > > Pierre > -- > Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com