From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Feb 23 04:23:33 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:23:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NjtnY-0006rb-M9 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:23:32 -0800 Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com ([209.85.220.222]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Njtn8-0006H6-Dd for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:23:14 -0800 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so3746763fxm.26 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:22:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NPN7jacv68wYvdEDl9OWHRJs7cHmnJRBAGU2IAY+ooc=; b=fJH+ZYpVmjlfuTChmYOoNwYXaEPUluxn//Jp1S7KG/ytU700Eubxr1TrH1xeNoSTAZ HkJQlfKoi/f7RKReGuogdZoTXVDJLJWTlXnViJjg1SO82ZP2s+Zf4yxrH6XyRtFlkQWS 2tK0k+GdDPwCFGCxFJKb4Txj7gOz8UVPR554o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=IzKsRGAhKnfI/sQR06R+7QuocDUH2Dhe+vf/Zj4OcFESFFOQds8os+EX9mqb4Eogix wFBJbbrz5F6cF76497i8TVrSu9MhLsGYMPyRIYXgATvwoDU4FmrOCtw4DbmvF9ddW6SU yOwHHDHCOO04z5xGbSpIlKMUgGlWvobDvHVMs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.63.193 with SMTP id c1mr6876122fai.80.1266927779183; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:22:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <497698.33534.qm@web32905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4de8c3931002200821x3404f6b5k201e50941051f46e@mail.gmail.com> <497698.33534.qm@web32905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:22:59 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c5ea8da249fd985d Message-ID: <4de8c3931002230422r1833d2c1ja39104d34382d981@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Only one true dog From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-archive-position: 2884 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners You can also use "pa mei" as a selbri for "x1 is singular". For example: lo gerku cu pa mei (the one that really is 'dog' is singular) But this doesn't necessarily make reference to the entire world; it might be referring to a dog who is alone in a park, while other dogs might exist in other places. If the "whole space" tense is added: lo gerku cu ve'e pa mei ... this still leaves the possibility of "a multitude of dogs existing alone over the entire space". mu'o mi'e tijlan