From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Feb 25 06:28:50 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nkehs-00046X-Ka for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:28:49 -0800 Received: from mail-vw0-f53.google.com ([209.85.212.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nkehl-00045b-D1 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:28:46 -0800 Received: by vws17 with SMTP id 17so1104498vws.40 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:28:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7nXt1MQPFU8KCjWDZMq0CYzOCQwIHDAxW4eFwPpIDEM=; b=xdKhzhqWWC5dB8OYU6O5YEVqu8gLimqVRpbmmg1Q5oMyIyVmvfIZ6zgpWDNSby8dY5 JDd9zsYZ9eAV6hUBDsu86AqjQyrMNsx6IRvi7mzi6jp502Nl+6kowdnX5R21rX94rZDd lkeasXAunFh3184LjP9lhOis9IsiQKuzYnEps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nKLt/IQToeh6WiwdYQOR2GSCEtR3a7t493D/8pN8GL0puI7bewXAHIjycSaTUu7XEf SpwZLSYNtI6Jw5/Pz6nVp/i7FOuYOkRZ5SdWP7BXqx3USgX+1awMbleH8E7DuQiXw/22 f3u1/E9fAXOjcOtfubVko1AgI8DkNnakpfb/4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.121.229 with SMTP id i37mr513300vcr.95.1267108114246; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:28:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1f1080831002250607t10d66a41wfcedf1b4c4e4455f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f1080831002242001p106c6ba1k4925ec3b8ededbce@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301002242152o28dd4f62t4943b62388d3411f@mail.gmail.com> <1f1080831002250607t10d66a41wfcedf1b4c4e4455f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:28:34 -0500 Message-ID: <5715b9301002250628s73799e12td3312d89d4ce947f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Class--and non-gismu vocab in general From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b144b90aaba604806d99f5 X-archive-position: 2894 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --001636b144b90aaba604806d99f5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, one really cool tool that I've used for making lujvo is jvozba (lujvo zbasu) http://jwodder.freeshell.org/lojban/jvozba.cgi?lujvo= On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Ian Johnson wrote: > I know of jbovlaste and similar sources; my issue is in putting > together tanru and lujvo to express concepts like these. This one, at > least at that level, I should've probably been able to make, knowing > ctuca and ckule, but at the same time it seems a bit vague, even > relative to the English equivalent. > > For "trippy" in this case it would be along the lines of causing the > feeling of trippiness (like a weird kaleidoscope or something; not so > much hallucinogens per se), rather than feeling trippy (which I agree > would probably work well as an attitudinal combination). > > mu'omi'e latros. > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Luke Bergen > wrote: > > 1) You could try a lujvo like {nuncu'e} or {nunselctu}, or something > similar > > for class. Then it would be {mi klama lo nunselctu .i co'o} > > 2) jbovlaste.lojban.org is a good source for word definitions. > > 3) I guess it would depend on what you mean by "trippy". Maybe some > lujvo > > with {cizra} in it some where? Or you might be able to do it with an > > attitudinal like {.u'e .uanai ro'e} or something. There are others who > > could do a better job of making a good attitudinal blend for "trippy". > > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Ian Johnson > > wrote: > >> > >> Any ideas about how a university student might say: > >> "I'm going to class now, bye." > >> I know how to say everything but "class", and I can't think of a very > >> efficient way to even get that into "Lojbanic English", much less into > >> Lojban itself. > >> > >> In general, I'm also curious about where I might go to get ideas about > >> vocab that can't be attained straight from a gismu list. This is > >> probably a much more difficult example, but it popped up today as > >> well: "trippy." I again have no idea even where to start with > >> translating that concept. > >> > >> mu'omi'e latros. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > --001636b144b90aaba604806d99f5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, one really cool tool that I've used for making lujvo is jvozba (l= ujvo zbasu)=A0http://jwodder.freeshell.org/lojban/jvozba.cgi?lujvo=3D=A0
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On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Ian Johnson= <blindbrava= do@gmail.com> wrote:
I know of jbovlaste and similar sources; my issue is in putting
together tanru and lujvo to express concepts like these. This one, at
least at that level, I should've probably been able to make, knowing ctuca and ckule, but at the same time it seems a bit vague, even
relative to the English equivalent.

For "trippy" in this case it would be along the lines of causing = the
feeling of trippiness (like a weird kaleidoscope or something; not so
much hallucinogens per se), rather than feeling trippy (which I agree
would probably work well as an attitudinal combination).

mu'omi'e latros.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1) You could try a lujvo like {nuncu'e} or {nunselctu}, or somethi= ng similar
> for class. =A0Then it would be {mi klama lo nunselctu .i co'o}
> 2)=A0jbovlas= te.lojban.org is a good source for word definitions.
> 3) I guess it would depend on what you mean by "trippy". =A0= Maybe some lujvo
> with {cizra} in it some where? =A0Or you might be able to do it with a= n
> attitudinal like {.u'e .uanai ro'e} or something. =A0There are= others who
> could do a better job of making a good attitudinal blend for "tri= ppy".
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Any ideas about how a university student might say:
>> "I'm going to class now, bye."
>> I know how to say everything but "class", and I can'= t think of a very
>> efficient way to even get that into "Lojbanic English", = much less into
>> Lojban itself.
>>
>> In general, I'm also curious about where I might go to get ide= as about
>> vocab that can't be attained straight from a gismu list. This = is
>> probably a much more difficult example, but it popped up today as<= br> >> well: "trippy." I again have no idea even where to start= with
>> translating that concept.
>>
>> mu'omi'e latros.
>>
>>
>>
>
>




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