From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Feb 25 14:37:29 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NkmKj-0006F7-IQ for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:37:28 -0800 Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NkmKe-0006E2-NC for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:37:25 -0800 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so5157548bwz.26 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:37:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=roOVyZ5/4IcYJyen+3w+AO7sFr/fh0eDiizHt9GewQQ=; b=q/0OwHbaKk40otXdkR/tI65qrcRLOkgeFerV6OXAU6rsSQLnMJvTXaEVztvj4xZFt1 mLJBOuzpU80wBRQIRVQslns9jZ5BFgogPLq5MbrDcYVvCm0tDfBVu7fcw3XwUjVmnO9u BIxMktSvU086PItmJPbn+lB6QFyV5izUk6re8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hoCFnCGg0/fyTOOaJ0mwbg3ktK+bHfBGpP+S/sUteDjrOGubBhllWzeVCJkel0h3Ug 6uQom+0sTtgXmRTThF7/P09VKaAOF1f5LTC211PdmRcegjetnPL0vzCKTqOUkA17L/Z7 kKdst1cHgs2iElS2ddSKEx9YN06ZV5YLdniK8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.151.91 with SMTP id b27mr181106bkw.110.1267137433943; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:37:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1f1080831002251412y359ded84h334e592dd47cbf11@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f1080831002242001p106c6ba1k4925ec3b8ededbce@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301002242152o28dd4f62t4943b62388d3411f@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3931002251107q28efbe99u91d9a89f3a893c09@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561002251134h7021d17cof94e9cf155267ad1@mail.gmail.com> <1f1080831002251412y359ded84h334e592dd47cbf11@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:37:13 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17561002251437p5b1045fct53c102866acf9337@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Class--and non-gismu vocab in general From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 2913 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > Interesting; I'm seeing a bit more merit to this when it's presented > this way. It seemed odd before, but it makes some sense now. To take > this to its logical conclusion, though, how would you say "What > classes are you taking this semester?" I suppose something like: do se ctuca fo ma ca lo ca kultei > I'm not sure it'd be the same > word, and if it were I think you'd be using a little flexibility in > translation (a direct gloss might be something like "what teaching > events do you repeatedly go to this semester?") And I don't think it > can be as simple as {do tadni ma} with any combination of > tenses/aspects either. Even if it were, then you run into "what's your > major?" as a problem, which to me is closer to {do tadni ma} (at least > based on the definition; it's not like I've really seen it in use). "What's your major?" could be: ma ralju lo ve ctuca be do mu'o mi'e xorxes