From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Mar 01 05:48:25 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 01 Mar 2010 05:48:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nm5yz-00027N-0C for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 05:48:25 -0800 Received: from n6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com ([68.142.237.91]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nm5yt-00025X-Lt for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 05:48:24 -0800 Received: from [68.142.237.87] by n6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2010 13:46:02 -0000 Received: from [216.252.110.140] by t3.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2010 13:46:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp210.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2010 13:46:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 631543.91162.bm@omp210.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 28781 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 2010 13:46:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1267451162; bh=jlrLwIBdTa12u/Rpppnp3w4XUoCZNbS8Nf83mrunhfA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fRm7Eu1PQpG8sh+OcLhc2HDvhOyPL5DyNUTL70Nx5n8UBPrniptT+BM6OL6Pkw9F/rpNlpF7GM0NoxStALP0ttLxCoPcWR++YExZWOv4QT+IL0g+R1eaxxsRDBo0+wGk39aqq21FmABwWHWBGRWnzMrMfZ7SPFritgVZnMbnLFM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ekq7QCWh8jhGCIgLMsrsoIslHwM4vJ1+TST4oscXyIVFqR07tEgHUi6jr5rR0nqkeXg4Z6MExpLZMgBm4EXnrzWQIqegLvXB+Nqet3rlOEF1C8S8DobPMSTe8LHNLKrEfZk2sR0E05oBa9EXQOFAUj0Uiv2qxQTY/7NfSkU/wdM=; Message-ID: <474705.27306.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: w43retMVM1k6KKNTRBOxAsvCHXQFdSCoXT5n7xaea71mCJA 1ekdLw1DJ_RkWsqAvWxz.eWeD1C64YoMSdcJlhBkHh5q6uFnIfzTv.K8izJQ PLfnoSq6s_DyPl0KO3POTWhWbr3Zx4a1WPeQgprQFSg1PhNDmtY.lAe4aMhA VLYAhODiycEqhYkS7KfIvYGFL5fNavsXjZCe5XMDrojjes6BgpJSy_7vUaOk pHZEFRKZ9cGZf_Vlj0N42GyfSKjMMpE6f.yh74GKFKa0TwuHRUxrsgB_0p8I SYt0KyHZyIftAfpkjjwgBcnFS.6_nCbfJ7m.BxNna6W0hEMde2G11tym9gs8 vO5lL3xvyU17UED4Sm3Wk0A-- Received: from [99.229.170.85] by web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 05:46:02 PST References: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D3822C1B467@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> <4B8BB401.5040508@perpetuum-immobile.de> <4de8c3931003010538y6bef970dv31f605543c678d39@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 05:46:02 -0800 (PST) From: "A. PIEKARSKI" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: translation of "blog" si blag To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <4de8c3931003010538y6bef970dv31f605543c678d39@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2932 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners > On 1 March 2010 12:33, Timo Paulssen <> ymailto="mailto:timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de" > href="mailto:timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de">timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> > wrote: > Michael Eaton wrote: >> Or "blog". I don't see why it > would need its own distinct word...? >> > but it's pronounced > blag! ... in American English, where it's [blɑg] with the unrounded > vowel. In Common-Wealth English (UK, Australia, New Zealand, etc.), > it's mostly [blɒg] with the rounded vowel, which would be best > lojbanized as "blog". > may i suggest zo intyrblag? Why > {intyr-] rather than {kibr-}? These arguements about American English versus Commonwealth English seem a little strange to me.  Have we forgotten that lojban is not the preserve of the English-speaking world?  How is "blog" pronounced in China, India, Brazil, Nigeria?  {prekarni} sounds fine to me! totus