From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Mar 02 09:11:51 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:11:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmVdO-000851-SM for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:11:51 -0800 Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com ([209.85.219.222]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmVdE-0007xE-A4 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:11:47 -0800 Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so355826ewy.26 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:11:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dQQgJBijR7xREcVkNHkz3SBXudU3U4IIp1BN6qCeaU4=; b=JbGRoJFS/nUPnXR+hXtkKPDroPMm+jneDxaY+Kkx0gLXYmwOS9KGqV5vNz8a0eeaCi BkJe9qcTPJdRZRn3iMDwnFgbaoJCaUXVZNI8JB/r2Y/y8zNXUV/taZdTw8fqILJx6VmN J2UA28F763i+y3b8SUAYgx+iWgLgGVq9tmLEY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=A7TeSumG3WKEMbJOErfuyl2yABwFvpfqZdyuoIu7iEv+eTAcNnG5fohCjSIyUdZ7Gd PYJrx4haoW3RdHaxYuOB3/FEDf+Q7DpS5xETNVlHeBEb2E0bK/oyiSwWuQ5saR2VTWdo 8/f1KDFtXxZWai/BbaE615my8vWwDAzRYa8QQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.102.211.3 with SMTP id j3mr5102070mug.117.1267549457931; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:04:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1f1080831003020851r6ef490f6ydf450d55606dedb1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f1080831003020851r6ef490f6ydf450d55606dedb1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:04:17 -0500 Message-ID: <8a20e9f71003020904s38b13c85jd2e0891904854b69@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Asking specific questions From: Jameson Orndorff To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 2946 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jtorndorff@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners What you probably want is {xu}, specifically tied to the sumti in question. This gives a sort of "is it this as opposed to something else"? .i do citka lo plise ku xu Is it apples that you eat? (As opposed to something else) .i do dunda lo rupnu ku mi xu Is it me you're giving the money to? In these cases, the bridi is asserted to be true, with the only questionable part being what is specifically tagged by {xu}. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Ian Johnson wrote: > Today I asked my lab instructor: > So we're testing with methanol twice? > (The emphasis in text is stronger than it actually is in voice, but you get > the idea). In other words, I knew we were testing with methanol, was pretty > sure we were doing it twice, but was not 100% sure about the twice part. > This intuitively seems somewhat similar to a {ma} question (more so than > many other English questions), in that you basically state an ordinary > sentence but are asking someone to fill in a blank. However, you also have a > guess. This means that if "we're testing with methanol twice" is true, then > the answer should be "yes" (maybe "yes, twice"), but if "we're testing with > methanol once" is true then the answer should be "no, once." > > Does Lojban have an analogous "fill-in-the-blank or verify that my filling > is correct" mechanism? If so, how do you use it? My guess was (if there > isn't a specific mechanism for this) that you would use a combination of a > connective question and another question word, making a possible structure > of: > do ji ma > (I can't think of a specific example here for whatever reason, and my > example above is probably somewhat beyond my level for other reasons). > Would this work? > > mu'omi'e latros. >