From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Mar 02 11:51:20 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:51:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmY7i-0000pE-6h for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:51:20 -0800 Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com ([209.85.219.222]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmY7R-0000hC-1H for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:51:13 -0800 Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so519317ewy.26 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:50:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Oi+wZtOh8HK3LIVQEHgpiE+ny+l+pj9pQXC1Bk/TmrE=; b=xxYK76rQG/lTCd2r90oaA7Kb0cTzsjC1QRy1lN3IUIlA/1P/gxmwN4GzvE46khHKOa vAfVXAeFBcI7A26oGnbA9+WPJsGW/aaRvuD8UF47dUNZWAWb/JPRQD7cplv55lfA72Ul cr5Dw3m8DKs82Crx9Ok+C7paXYtdzcsBHPjO4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CqVr8BeC0DywKJ2Op0LvPBeeJQIcobiH7WNw01Sda2VfbFbcFFMgAs4rdcxBXQKPOx fHyT4kTqpWPMt+sFpIkAhWmIRbF5cEQMHilBr3LADZonblEqNqY/mMOFaWZvxAbskDH5 CnaDiJznxaqQkDKEJBMUemo95jbJtR4TQGZyQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.25.79 with SMTP id y15mr327349ebb.61.1267559454284; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:50:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <96f789a61003021041x2ea00717g5613b30ec0ab4e26@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f1080831003020851r6ef490f6ydf450d55606dedb1@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301003020905o337c4d48v5160b5f407cd9858@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003020925y71c7f15dwca7b88e469bae65c@mail.gmail.com> <1f1080831003021016p1f8af572k73b347fe33316cde@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a61003021041x2ea00717g5613b30ec0ab4e26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:50:54 -0500 Message-ID: <1f1080831003021150k13428be6wb3df52224e1961ad@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Asking specific questions From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0b726011c240480d6af00 X-archive-position: 2955 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: blindbravado@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --000e0ce0b726011c240480d6af00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 OK. So how does go'i work, exactly, in the case of "go'i lo mi zdani"? Ordinarily it repeats the previous {bridi}, yes, and if you give it an article it can be used to refer back to a particular {sumti} in the previous {bridi} (as in, say, le se go'i). But what happens here, logically? mu'omi'e latros. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Ian Johnson > wrote: > > So {xu} can be used for things other than entire {bridi}. Interesting, > and > > useful as well. So how do you answer questions like that? For example, if > > you are asked: > > mi'o klama lo zarci xu (I think this is right...) > > How do you respond if: > > mi'o klama lo zarci > > is true, as compared with when: > > mi'o klama lo mi zdani > > is true? > > > > > go'i works fine, as does "mi'o klama le zarci" > If we are in fact going home than you can say "mi'o klama [ba'e] lo > mi zdani" or "go'i lo mi zdani", maong other things > --gejyspa > > > > --000e0ce0b726011c240480d6af00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK. So how does go'i work, exactly, in the case of "go'i lo mi= zdani"? Ordinarily it repeats the previous {bridi}, yes, and if you g= ive it an article it can be used to refer back to a particular {sumti} in t= he previous {bridi} (as in, say, le se go'i). But what happens here, lo= gically?

mu'omi'e latros.

On Tue, Mar = 2, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Ian Johns= on <blindbravado@gmail.com= > wrote:
> So {xu} can be used for things other than entire {bridi}. Interesting,= and
> useful as well. So how do you answer questions like that? For example,= if
> you are asked:
> mi'o klama lo zarci xu (I think this is right...)
> How do you respond if:
> mi'o klama lo zarci
> is true, as compared with when:
> mi'o klama lo mi zdani
> is true?
>


=A0go'i works fine, as does "mi'o klama le zarci&= quot;
=A0If we are in fact =A0going home than you can say "mi'o klama [= ba'e] lo
mi zdani" or "go'i lo mi zdani", maong other things
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa




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