From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Mar 02 12:01:34 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmYHe-0002tL-7s for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:01:34 -0800 Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmYHV-0002q6-FD for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:01:33 -0800 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so587966bwz.26 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:01:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mvLzWx8Reka5Xi7/Osn4jut830cQhb0f4x6mkj57Fcc=; b=aKyG9/dsrR3OPbIkaHgzplb5jCwPGwX0cR9oidJf0dFhfumnCTT5s2Al3kT95NPiGZ NMiiiQO+4L1qyzTWILnbcaQxrz2hpgI9gbLZslIcMtSsuXikz6SdORWVOjonWV1Miy7h V7bs2Eh835LRWexMvzi4eijikS2pixelr5OA4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ig0KP3F4iyuaq3nvQvi0Pl+eowbYMLz6Ck7ybmeZzt0DUer5mv4lhciNIdFOofjtIE zySfNHjg7w4nVjosUOpGKqQ/G10Lek0P4JSdE+ihOj9XV7Yj2aKrJWNgqYuY9/Qf/eGQ xq6dhg6/ZSW75kS3ilrzd57FkG1cH3BmI+ruA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.8.141 with SMTP id h13mr4946550bkh.92.1267560078510; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:01:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1f1080831003021150k13428be6wb3df52224e1961ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f1080831003020851r6ef490f6ydf450d55606dedb1@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301003020905o337c4d48v5160b5f407cd9858@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003020925y71c7f15dwca7b88e469bae65c@mail.gmail.com> <1f1080831003021016p1f8af572k73b347fe33316cde@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a61003021041x2ea00717g5613b30ec0ab4e26@mail.gmail.com> <1f1080831003021150k13428be6wb3df52224e1961ad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:01:18 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17561003021201r4a148ce2h308e9c00a6b0ae04@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Asking specific questions From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 2956 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > OK. So how does go'i work, exactly, in the case of "go'i lo mi zdani"? > Ordinarily it repeats the previous {bridi}, yes, and if you give it an > article it can be used to refer back to a particular {sumti} in the previous > {bridi} (as in, say, le se go'i). But what happens here, logically? "go'i" is a selbri, so strictly speaking it repeats the selbri of the previous bridi, but a selbri can always be a bridi by itself, and the missing "zo'e"s are usually taken to be the same arguments as those of the previous bridi, so the effect is as if you had repeated the whole bridi. But you can always fill any argument of "go'i" with something explicit, such as "lo mi zdani", in which case that argument will no longer be the corresponding one from the preceding bridi. mu'o mi'e xorxes