From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Mar 10 15:20:42 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:20:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NpVCj-0000OA-Fm for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:20:42 -0800 Received: from mail-gy0-f181.google.com ([209.85.160.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NpVCf-0000My-0Y for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:20:40 -0800 Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so3979516gyg.40 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:20:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=GSA/dfTmhj+cbcwZ07FcGZGwaeW32nIM9aN3N7d7t5c=; b=h0hy5EzDBMTLKtQJn0NOOOetR/U4KvNQ4qwbW1umGQS3xAurzzaXAJJM7m3ph+7OsL a5A/6kQRqo/RfWmglnabBHVi1oxsTWkONJf+6cf2GZs5kovq5olywgIX28p0xu+CZ5nh LjH2kxYVxf0WSdTIWvOdBFC7zlMUShLMbnez8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XMZ8IFXcBY/oNnTgMi7YMildRsr3MCTdTBg/5m6kysPdOy3LZGsN7M9SQrFkRcPRsQ sQ3ksozOlZ3CDIvbMS+wFQsOQ7yP5uopwuNaL8+viYDOp0kUlFObRFgn3VvNk3tJmtRh qglgecP0xrvuo7SATuodxBHjuyhSEPt/oyiHE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.109.9 with SMTP id l9mr270018anm.78.1268263230293; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:20:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:20:30 -0500 Message-ID: <1f1080831003101520r1e87f21cuacb4cd23fa9a2d4c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Duration questions From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636ed746952c7bd04817a8b8a X-archive-position: 2983 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: blindbravado@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --001636ed746952c7bd04817a8b8a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Do duration questions force you to make an assumption about the relative length of the duration? That is, as I understand it a typical duration question might be: .i ti zdani do ze'a ma roughly "how long have you been living in this house?", with the expectation that the duration to come is moderate in length. (Not sure if I should have another tense in there like {ca'o}, but that's another question.) And yet, it seems like if the answer were, say, {lo cabdei} (imagining the person just moved in today), that the corresponding sentence would be: .i ti zdani mi ze'i lo cabdei since living in a house for a day is a pretty short time, as time spent living in houses goes. Is there any way around this implicit assumption, short of asking a slightly different question like "when did you move into this house?"? mu'omi'e .latros. --001636ed746952c7bd04817a8b8a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do duration questions force you to make an assumption about the relative le= ngth of the duration? That is, as I understand it a typical duration questi= on might be:
.i ti zdani do ze'a ma
roughly "how long have y= ou been living in this house?", with the expectation that the duration= to come is moderate in length. (Not sure if I should have another tense in= there like {ca'o}, but that's another question.) And yet, it seems= like if the answer were, say, {lo cabdei} (imagining the person just moved= in today), that the corresponding sentence would be:
.i ti zdani mi ze'i lo cabdei
since living in a house for a day is a= pretty short time, as time spent living in houses goes. Is there any way a= round this implicit assumption, short of asking a slightly different questi= on like "when did you move into this house?"?

mu'omi'e .latros.
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