From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Mar 13 04:52:53 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:52:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NqQpn-00009r-VC for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:52:52 -0800 Received: from mail-fx0-f210.google.com ([209.85.220.210]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NqQph-000090-5d for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:52:49 -0800 Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so27391fxm.26 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:52:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=I/S5oHvceqE0wU3dM6d/AQZ9qYqUHznwFjzoR7gyWOc=; b=g+eQRe7jUmNt80dK0/CurozaBkUBDjIIqzZ71boC+M5niIf3BxnAEQMl/nMVS5DgNA 4sW3VldsQEa78trLeA0vLsCiMlTom5MJMSLeztEABhHCNUc+miyuZdTQPEv4WtdeOsBP 4JPiEktmhdCRGfxA3GnfIItD/KTsxN2sbwoQ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=HywOPQmy+jGQH2eVVkhepbG2+DGSsbT7Qo6AVoOonlq/rNUetp/V4NAiClBfGBi+gK 0epQi8JeRHuiISYRX8H0Q6cq+JL73GaGXwt4TBR7oGeyIOc73GopE+hoNtvGehnTEi1J gmL93BkYPOqBV32Y0EaWTnF5yvTgiEInmjiVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.15.89 with SMTP id j25mr2502630faa.97.1268484758447; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:52:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:52:38 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d4bfa348242a3db3 Message-ID: <4de8c3931003130452v3473ee1ei70da65f022ac2b1b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] How versatile is "nu"? From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-archive-position: 2989 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Officially, the most generic/nonspecific of NU is "su'u"; but people seem to use "nu" more often for the purpose of general abstraction. Personally, I wouldn't find it particularly odd if someone use "nu" for a terbri which the gimste defines as "du'u" or other specific types of abstraction. For example: mi jinvi lo du'u broda (I think that the proposition "broda" is true) mi jinvi lo nu broda (I think that the event "broda" is true) "jinvi"s x2 is officially to take "du'u". Is "nu" for such objects of mental activity / logical operation discouraged? If so, why? mu'o mi'e tijlan