From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Mar 13 09:28:22 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:28:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NqV8P-0006tG-Vm for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:28:22 -0800 Received: from mail-fx0-f210.google.com ([209.85.220.210]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NqV8J-0006sG-HH for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:28:19 -0800 Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so60237fxm.26 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:28:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=g43xjRgizI6VONrikakE77jTJpMXKyqEfopUv1BO0lc=; b=xiVhh9LRLDSOxBSqhhCSlr1s31EKSDWG7iOCIrSro4ayz7ZkBko/ZLTvXEKdrcp50n aQlkX44ZHAvDTXs6OpjQFDMvrB7ESXXjB6hQYIGhZ17RV6QzTwaRz/ebX8K55dcAduXg 0Op5iPswIVlp8iBBmzbWMUKjWulFgJZdHBjCk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=dlM68JU1sqk3w771ogcLOThdwyPeJe3eBpwCjUuMxxw/YB4QnnAG8NTon75IBl1jR+ +QGPidhtRBvzw/VYeHajAnaoqlWDJoFTueMlGLSWYoqpgv9/VDQGRp1kMHdeiphZw5zu Zd+a9+7dcAEeFcX6UaSf3psvrVFH0BEprvZ1c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.58.83 with SMTP id f19mr3311087fah.88.1268501288560; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:28:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5715b9301003130826v38796202i1d23f3c09809ca2d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4de8c3931003130452v3473ee1ei70da65f022ac2b1b@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003130713o346dd22lbe1cb8cf25c66f1c@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301003130746x7347e6a3u3c38970be7c55316@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003130806t592c146k934fc70f4dfb99dd@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301003130826v38796202i1d23f3c09809ca2d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:28:08 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: db5b6bcb64eed862 Message-ID: <4de8c3931003130928m50cde388xcb631dd523f63445@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: How versatile is "nu"? From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2997 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 13 March 2010 16:26, Luke Bergen wrote: >> So you object to: >> >>    mi viska lo nu lo nanmu cu bajra >> >> ? > Good point.  I suppose I can't really object to that for practical reasons. >  It just feels strange to me.  I understand myself to be seeing a man who is > running as opposed to the event of running itself. "a man" itself is an abstraction/event of e.g. atoms forming molecules forming cells forming a biological male body; an event of "man-ing". So, when you see "a man", you are already seeing an event. When "a man" "runs", it's a combination of events, just like the event of hydrogen & rubber forming a balloon and the event of the balloon going up can combine.