From Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de Mon Feb 10 03:35:45 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 10 Feb 2003 03:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw6.gedas.de ([139.1.44.12] helo=spree.gedas.de) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iCDw-0005Jc-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 03:35:44 -0800 Received: from spree.gedas.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spree.gedas.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13913 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:35:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from blnsem05.de.gedas.vwg (blnsem05.gedas.de [139.1.84.49]) by spree.gedas.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13909 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:35:10 +0100 (MET) Received: by blnsem05.de.gedas.vwg with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:34:43 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Newton, Philip" To: "'lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org'" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: tanru/lujvo for [name] type of thing? Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:35:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-archive-position: 75 X-Approved-By: Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Jan Pilgenroeder wrote: [using fu'ivla] > does not allow for lujvo building (or does it?). Use {zei}. AFAIK, {rodbo'e} is the same as {broda zei brode} -- so {saskrlumani zei cusku} is a lujvo, rather than a tanru. > BTW: how do you define place-structures for fu'ivla? AFAIK: by fiat. The person who uses the fu'ivla gets to decide what the place structure is. The default is, I believe, something like "x1 is specific to in property x2", but you could use pretty much anything, just as with lujvo. Best to state the place structure assignment somewhere, though (again, as with lujvo, whose place structure is also not guessable). > And it would be really nice to be able to build lujvo e.g. for > "science-type-of-(Luhmann-type-of-observation)" or > "self-referential-type-of-(Luhmann-type-of-observation)" {zei} is probably your friend, again. mu'omi'e filip. -- filip.niutyn. All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.