From lojban@65536.org Tue Feb 11 10:31:06 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:31:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.171]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ifBR-0003m9-00 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:31:05 -0800 Received: from [212.227.126.202] (helo=mrvnet.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18ifBQ-00006B-00 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:31:04 +0100 Received: from [172.23.4.132] (helo=config5.kundenserver.de) by mrvnet.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18ifBQ-0007EQ-00 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:31:04 +0100 Received: from www-data by config5.kundenserver.de with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18ifBQ-0006GP-00 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:31:04 +0100 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] A problem with cu From: lojban@65536.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-From: 5391625 Received: from 217.87.10.210 by webmail.puretec.de via HTTP X-Binford: 6100 (more power) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:31:04 +0100 X-archive-position: 85 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: lojban@65536.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners coi rodo (or is simply {coi} better?) After some Lojban lessons I have still some problems with {cu}. As far as I understand it {cu} indicates that the following word is a selbri. It separate two gismu: {le nanmu cu klama} OK, but why do you use {cu} in the following sentence: {lenu mi cilre fi la lojban. cu xamgu mi} {xamgu} is a selbri, so you can use {cu}, but is {lenu mi cilre fi la lojban. xamgu mi} correct? {la lojban.} is a cmeme - there is no need for a {cu}? Another {cu}-problem: {la daucac. tcika lenu mi klama} is OK. If you want to use {se} it becomes something like {lenu mi klama cu se tcika la daucac.} Why is {se} not enough to separate {klama} and {tcika}? mu'o mi'e .iens.gutsait. (or is mi'e ... enough? What is the difference?)