From jjllambias@hotmail.com Tue Feb 11 11:03:27 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:08:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from f180.law8.hotmail.com ([216.33.241.180] helo=hotmail.com) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ifgl-00042I-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:03:27 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:02:57 -0800 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:02:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] From: "Jorge Llambias" To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A problem with cu Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:02:56 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Feb 2003 19:02:57.0001 (UTC) FILETIME=[302EED90:01C2D200] X-archive-position: 86 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners la iens cusku di'e >coi rodo (or is simply {coi} better?) Both are right. >OK, but why do you use {cu} in the following sentence: > >{lenu mi cilre fi la lojban. cu xamgu mi} > >{xamgu} is a selbri, so you can use {cu}, but is > >{lenu mi cilre fi la lojban. xamgu mi} > >correct? {la lojban.} is a cmeme - there is no need for a {cu}? It is correct but not what you want. {nu mi cilre fi la lojban} is itself a selbri, which can form a tanru with {xamgu}, so you have {le (nu mi cilre fi la lojban) (xamgu)}. >Another {cu}-problem: > >{la daucac. tcika lenu mi klama} > >is OK. If you want to use {se} it becomes something like > >{lenu mi klama cu se tcika la daucac.} > >Why is {se} not enough to separate {klama} and {tcika}? Because you can have tanru of the form {broda se brode}. {klama se tcika} is a tanru. >mu'o mi'e .iens.gutsait. (or is mi'e ... enough? What is the >difference?) {mu'o} indicates that your transmission is over. {mi'e} indicates who you are. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail