From xavin@xavin.adhockery.net Fri Apr 25 12:54:13 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 12-207-28-120.client.attbi.com ([12.207.28.120] helo=xavin.adhockery.net ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1999Gu-0008Vb-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:54:12 -0700 Received: from xavin.adhockery.net (xavin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xavin.adhockery.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Debian-3) with ESMTP id h3PJs46P009986 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:54:04 -0500 Received: (from xavin@localhost) by xavin.adhockery.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Debian-3) id h3PJs4Mj009984 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:54:04 -0500 From: xavin@xavin.adhockery.net Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:54:04 -0500 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A Newbie's First Impressions Message-ID: <20030425195404.GA9977@swbell.net> References: <20030424050102.GV5687@miranda.org> <20030424214955.61056.qmail@web10904.mail.yahoo.com> <20030424222322.GS28930@digitalkingdom.org> <20030425194057.GA9794@swbell.net> <20030425194544.GH29118@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030425194544.GH29118@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-archive-position: 257 X-Approved-By: xavin@xavin.adhockery.net X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: xavin@xavin.adhockery.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 12:45:44PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > > The mouse the cat the dog bit chased died. > > > > > > > > Out of pure masochistic curiousity, what the **** does that > > > > sentence mean? > > > > > > The mouse which was chased by the cat which was bit by the dog > > > died. > > > > Where did you get the rule that says you can do that? > > *Rule*? > > Perhaps your talking about a different English. *My* English > doesn't have the rules written down anywhere. > > However, note that this is just a more extreme case of "The car the > old man had was blue". Verbal cadence makes a huge difference in > cases like this. That is the rule that allows you to delete 'that' in certain cases. I understand now. Thanks --Xavier Shirin