From c1tk@c1tk.cjb.net Thu May 15 10:57:47 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 15 May 2003 11:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cjb.net ([216.194.70.5]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GMzC-0004cb-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 10:57:46 -0700 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail.cjb.net (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) id h4FHufT73664; Thu, 15 May 2003 11:56:41 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 11:56:41 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200305151756.h4FHufT73664@mail.cjb.net> Received: from c1tk ([165.21.154.13]) by mail.cjb.net (Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) mod_perl/1.27) with HTTP/1.1 for ; Thu May 15 11:56:41 MDT 2003 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org, c1tk@c1tk.cjb.net From: c1tk@c1tk.cjb.net Subject: [lojban-beginners] How to use "birti"/"jetnu"/"jinvi"/etc.? X-archive-position: 313 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: c1tk@c1tk.cjb.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners coi rodo, What is the correct way to use gismu such as "birti", "jetnu", "jinvi" which involve a full-blown assertion as one of their arguments? E.g. how do I transform a statement like "Saddam is evil" ("la sadam. palci") into "I think Saddam is evil"? What should I put as the x2 to "jinvi"? Thanks, -- GPG:f75949318a026c5707ff188b438cca87faf73a82 http://angelfire.com/folk/sm0p/ GCS/MU d- s: a- C++() UL P++(+++) L++(+++) E- W++ N(+) o K? w--- O? M? V? PS(+) PE Y+ PGP+ t? 5? X- R- tv-() b+ DI(+) D+ G e++ h-- !r>+++ !y