From tk1@despammed.com Wed Jun 04 04:16:07 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 04 Jun 2003 06:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bb-203-125-36-13.singnet.com.sg ([203.125.36.13] helo=localhost) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NWFS-0005hw-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 04:16:07 -0700 Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 501) id 210B522340; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 19:19:29 +0800 (SGT) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 19:19:29 +0800 From: c1tk@c1tk.cjb.net To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Translation effort... Message-ID: <20030604111929.GB1031@panda.localdomain> References: <20030529152056.GA1204@panda.localdomain> <20030530175629.6962.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20030530175629.6962.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-archive-position: 366 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: c1tk@c1tk.cjb.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Hello all, [Jorge Llambías:] > > Secular Humanists define Evil as any behavior that enhances > > an individual's success at the expense of the success of > > others. > > i lo'e narjda remna se tadni krici cu te smuni le ka palci le ro > > seltra poi da zo'u ge le da se snada cu zenba gi le na'e da se snada > > cu jdika > [{na'e bo da} instead of {na'e da}.] Thanks, however I still do not understand why a {bo} is needed here. (I can see though that {remna se tadni} should really be {remna bo se tadni}.) Please enlighten. Here is my attempt at translating the remainder: And I define Evil as the enjoyment I get from watching thousands of innocents squirm in terror as I destroy the very underpinnings of everything they believe and hold dear in my quest to command supreme domination over all life. ije mi te smuni le ka palci le mi se pluka poi mi zgana le nu so'i na zekri prenu cu terpa na cando ku'o fi'o temci le nu ge mi zalvi ro ra se krici jicmu gi mi dirba gunka fi le nu mi mulno jitro ro jmive EVIL IS NOT A PHILOSOPHY. IT IS NEITHER A MEANS NOR AN END. IT IS AN ATTITUDE AND A LIFESTYLE. i le ka palci cu se krici ciste i ri genai tadji ginai jalge i ri ge menli tarti gi jmive morna Make no excuses. Support no ideology. Never explain. You're EVIL. Just do it. i ko bacru no krinu i ko sarji no ciste krici i ko no da ciksi i do palci i ko frili gasnu Once more, please comment. Thanks! -- GPG:f75949318a026c5707ff188b438cca87faf73a82 http://angelfire.com/folk/sm0p/ GCS/MU d- s: a- C++() UL P++(+++) L++(+++) E- W++ N(+) o K? w--- O? M? V? PS(+) PE Y+ PGP+ t? 5? X- R- tv-() b+ DI(+) D+ G e++ h-- !r>+++ !y