From ptg_thug@yahoo.com Thu Jun 12 14:05:23 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 12 Jun 2003 14:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web13004.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.174.14]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QZG7-0006hU-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 14:05:23 -0700 Message-ID: <20030612210523.93354.qmail@web13004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [138.163.0.43] by web13004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 14:05:23 PDT Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 14:05:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Travis Garris Subject: [lojban-beginners] Playing with Order To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 379 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: ptg_thug@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Or... How Many Ways Can I Phrase the Same Question Since I'm learning Lojban in silence and with little practice, I'm having to reread chapters of the Lojban for Beginners over and over again. This isn't a bad thing, but a little too much information sometimes can be dangerous. One of the exercises is translate "zdani do vi ma". I was thinking "Where do you live?", which is subtly wrong. Realizing the mistake, I started playing with the phrase. Hopefully each of the following are identical in meaning, let me know if I'm wrong. "vi ma zdani do" (do I need "cu" since nothing is in x1?) "vi ma do se zdani" "do vi ma se zdani" (or should that me "se vi ma") "do selzda vi ma" (fancy and shorter, but something feels wrong) Travis Garris Norfolk, Va. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com