From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Thu Jul 17 10:42:42 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41904.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.155]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19dCmA-000200-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:42:42 -0700 Message-ID: <20030717174211.12026.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:42:11 PDT Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:42:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Jorge "Llambías" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Some questions To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 406 X-Approved-By: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners la iuvál cusku di'e > In fact, now I am more bothered by that than before. Doesn't mu'o being a > COI > mean that both "mu'o mi'e iuvál" and "mi'e iuvál. mu'o" are non-gramatical > (because no name or do'u is present), and should instead be expressed "mu'o > mi'e iuvál do'u" and "mi'e iuvál mu'o do'u"? "iuvál" is the name which is present! You can have a string of many COI's followed by an optional {doi} and then a name and the vocative is closed with {do'u}. {mu'o} by itself is still grammatical if not followed by anything else because the parser will insert the elidable terminator. > > It doesn't by itself mark the end of an utterance. The construction that > > it heads marks the end of the utterance. > > That is precisely the problem - how could one tell where the construction > ends? > It could in theory be an arbitrarily long "mu'o do'u ui ui ui ..." Yes. Maybe what you are after is the end of parsable input marker, which is {fa'o}. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com