From jkominek@miranda.org Mon Mar 01 10:41:59 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 01 Mar 2004 10:41:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from miranda.org ([209.58.150.153] ident=qmailr) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AxsMZ-0004R9-8U for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2004 10:41:59 -0800 Received: (qmail 3032 invoked by uid 534); 1 Mar 2004 18:41:57 -0000 From: jkominek@miranda.org Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 11:41:57 -0700 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: precise definition of cmene Message-ID: <20040301184157.GG15105@miranda.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20040227185155.03970510@pop.east.cox.net> <20040228013333.44843.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> <20040301110426.GA24435@fysh.org> <200403011836.NAA06560@Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200403011836.NAA06560@Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Accept-Language: jbo, en X-archive-position: 551 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jkominek@miranda.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 01:31:54PM -0500, der Mouse wrote: > >> The proposed rule is that cmene not only end but also start with a > >> glottal stop, thus making any other restrictions unnecessary. > > This seems somewhat broken to me, as it makes it impossible to tell > where a cmene ends - unless it is forbidden to _contain_ pauses. > Otherwise, if you hear .. it's impossible to tell > whether there's another . that ends the cmene coming up, with the > second being part of the cmene, or whether the cmene is just > the first .., with the second being lojban. Alternate cmene schemes and their relative merits are beyond the scope of lojban-*beginners*. Please, everyone, take it to the main Lojban list. -- Jay Kominek Reality is what refuses to go away when you stop believing in it.