From MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Sat Mar 27 04:59:13 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:01:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B7DP7-0005tW-Km for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 04:59:13 -0800 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.2.) id j.75.25784671 (657) for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 07:58:39 -0500 (EST) From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Message-ID: <75.25784671.2d96d47f@wmconnect.com> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 07:58:39 EST Subject: [lojban-beginners] lojban vs. esperanto: ease of learning vocab To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-archive-position: 622 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners In a message dated 2004-03-27 5:21:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > lojban vocabulary, for chinese-speaking people at any rate, has to be as > easy or more easy than esperanto vocabulary... > greg, i accept with some reservation that a chinese would find lojban grammar easier to learn than esperanto, because of lojban's optionality (is that a word?), but why would lojban vocabulary be easier for chinese to learn than esperanto? esperanto words have lots of information (part of speech, affix meanings, similarity to other words) that help identify the meaning. and there is a lot more cohesion or system in esperanto roots than in gismu, which have NO system at all. granted, chinese was used to create the gismu in the first place, but i doubt that is as helpful as it was originally hoped. the fact that english and other languages i know were used in creating the gismu has not been all that helpful in learning the vocab. the forms of the gismu just have no (or too little) similarity to the source language forms. stevo