From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jul 19 10:53:11 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BmcK7-0006Tz-6T for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:53:11 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:53:11 -0700 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: New beginner Message-ID: <20040719175311.GV3825@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <40FBD8D0.7080904@yahoo.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40FBD8D0.7080904@yahoo.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 659 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 12:21:04AM +1000, Tristan Mc Leay wrote: > > mi'e tcristyn. I doubt you wanted the 'c' there. > (Though I note in the archives that Nora says "mi'e noras" with no > fullstop at the end---perhaps I haven't learnt enough.) If you have spaces between words, the places to put the stops are easy to determine, so people sometimes leave them out. > This time I did pay it some attention and found it more interesting > than I thought. Yay1 > So I've kinda read a bit about Lojban now, and decided that it sounds > interesting and worth learning. So far, I have read various webpages, > the first part of the level 0 booklet, and I'm working through Chapter > 6 (Time and Space) of Robin Turner and Nick Nicholas's Lojban For > Beginners lessons. Make sure it's this version: http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/ > At this stage, the most annoying thing to me was that everything I'd > read started using words (_cmene_ etc.) repeatedly before introducing > the pronunciation, so I had to take a stab at the pronunciation of > and I was wrong, but it stuck .ue.i'enai. I've just about got over > that. Ouch. Most of our introductory stuff should have pronounciation guides early on; can you point to something in particular? > Also, I forsee great difficulty with vocabulary, as it's usually the > biggest and hardest part of any language. So could anyone help with a > program that could randomly pop up some vocab (from a limited but > increasing set) at random intervals on my Linux desktop? Can't help you there, sorry. There's an emacs-based flashcard program. I myself use SuperMemo for PalmOS. > So I suppose I come to Lojban with some knowledge of logic and > computers and psychology and linguistics (which is kinda the > definition of Cognitive Science if anyone here didn't know; I always > found it quite convenient that someone invented a field that combines > many of my interests). Me too, but my school didn't start a degree in it until after I left. > I'm not sure how active this board is so maybe I should cross-post to > ? This list is generally for beginner's questions about Lojban. Welcome. More general discussion happens on the other list. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!"