From chris@balcomie.freeserve.co.uk Wed Aug 18 15:18:57 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.195.174]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BxYll-0000PR-FJ for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:18:57 -0700 Received: from modem-230.boron.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.4.230] helo=crh37) by cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BxYlj-0007H5-Ng for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:18:56 +0100 From: "Chris Howlett" To: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Anyone there? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:19:31 +0100 Message-ID: <000201c48571$705bf590$e604883e@crh37> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: <20040818210705.GJ13226@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-archive-position: 692 X-Approved-By: chris@balcomie.freeserve.co.uk X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: chris@balcomie.freeserve.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners > Unfortunately, I loathe the pronounciation of all > Lojbanizations of my name. To address me in Lojban, I > request that you use either "camgusmis" or, if you can't > remember that, "rabn". Fair enough - I'll try to remember that. It's probably a British-US thing - over here Robin is definitely pronounced with a Lojban o, so I often forget that over in the US it'd usually be a Lojban a. > > Yes, you're probably right. I have the wordlist from that site, and > > jbotermri and jboxelmri are listed as official lujvo for "Lojban > > mailing recipient" and "Lojban mailing list", > > They are? Oh, those are noralujv entries. They're > auto-generated from every Lujvo that anyone has ever used (at > the time they were made, many years ago). Many of them are > quite bad, and they don't appear in the dictionary anymore. > > We mostly use samselmri for "e-mail", and "samselmri liste" > for "mailing list". Noted. I'll also not trust that wordlist quite so implicitly any more... > > As I said before, I'm learning from "Lojban for Beginners", which > > notes that fe'o is the actually correct sign-off, > > Does it? Where? Er... One moment... Chapter 12, Vocatives, last bullet point (just above Exercise 3) fe'omi'e kris. (Incidentally, I'm not overly keen on the Lojbanisation of my name either, but without any short i vowel, there's not much I can do)