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Yeah, 'Robin' is the diminutive for 'Robert'.

I now understand why you miss the ability in Lojban to represent the short 
'i'. Your name, quasi-phonetically in American English, is 'rah-bin'. I 
suppose .rabyn. or .robyn. might vaguely approximate the sound, especially 
when approximating those dialects which drop all unstressed vowels towards 
.y.
Ultimately, the jbopre who wishes to 'lojbanize' his/her name may be forced 
to choose between .i. and .y., with an occasional vocalic .l., .m., .n., or 
.r.

.ritcard./.rytcard. would be a case in point, as of course would .ritc. and 
.rytc.

On the other hand, most languages have some troubles assimilating names. For 
example, 'Juan' becomes 'Wan' or 'Huan' in American English.  Likewise, the 
'n' in my last name probably stems from a Gaelic inability to pronounce the 
Welsh 'dd' in 'Gryffydd'.


>From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> Reply-To: 
>lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org To: 
>lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: 
>Anyone there? Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:30:04 -0700
>
>Please turn off HTML.

Is this any different? Is it any better? If not, then I don't know how to 
shut off html in msn.
>
>I've told the mailing list to fix it in the future, though.

For the msn and yahoo users, Thanks!

>
>On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 11:03:32AM -0700, Robert Griffin wrote: > Sounds 
>like a translation of 'Rupericht'/'Robert', often described as > meaning 
>'Bright in fame'
>
>That's the one, except that "Robin" is translated that way too.
>
>-Robin
>
>--