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On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 02:03:06PM -0500, Matt Arnold wrote:
> lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org wrote:
> >On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 12:40:13PM -0500, Matt Arnold wrote:
> >> I want to say "Two months later I know 11% of the vocabulary" in
> >> Lojban. Is it: 
> >> {.i ba'o la'e di'e roi re masti mi djuno lo valsi ji'e li nanacei} 
> >> in-aftermath-of referent-of last-utterance quantified-tense 2 month I know word up-to-limit 11%
> >> Is {ba'o} what I want? It seems that I have used {masti}
> >> ungrammatically, but I don't know where to fit it.
> >
> >Actually, the ungrammatical part is "roi".  Umm, among other
> >things. "na na cei" is very far from what you want.
> >
> >That's an *excellent* use of ji'e, though.
> >
> >How about:
> >
> >    .i ba'o la'e di'e za lo masti be li re mi djuno lo valsi ji'e li
> >    pa pa ce'i
> >
> >Please note that that use of za is not standardized; we don't
> >know exactly what it means yet.
> 
> The same cannot be said for my understanding of complex tenses. I
> don't know how {la'e di'e} and {lo masti be li re} can be made to
> fit into the sentence. 

In my version, they are arguments to sumti tcita; they fill the "in
the aftermath of ..." and "during a medium time of length ..."
places in the bridi, tagged as such by ba'e and za.

> In your re-statement, does it serve as a modifier for {va}?

I think you mean {za}, and no.  See above.

-Robin

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