From mattarn@123.net Wed Jan 19 19:25:20 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from new.e-mol.com ([65.169.135.18] helo=mole.e-mol.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1CrSwh-0002Tz-Qm for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:25:20 -0800 Received: from mail.123.net (new.e-mol.com [65.163.85.18]) by mole.e-mol.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j0K3OlIP016540 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:24:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:24:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200501200324.j0K3OlIP016540@mole.e-mol.com> To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org From: Matt Arnold Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: apostrophes? In-Reply-To: <20050120003126.GD12565@miranda.org> References: <41EEFA48.7020900@gulik.co.nz> <20050120003126.GD12565@miranda.org> X-Priority: 3 X-From: mattarn@mail.123.net X-Originating-IP: [68.41.253.159] Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1041 X-Approved-By: mattarn@123.net X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: mattarn@123.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Jay, Have I been pronouncing the apostrophe wrong? I thought it was pronounced "h". Therefore it is. Michael, it will make no difference to me. I will choose to understand. If it's easier for you, do what you like. But it also makes no difference to me that it is an apostrophe, which is what I use. I've never heard a justification, but I don't need one. -Matt lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org wrote: >On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 01:24:40PM +1300, Michael van der Gulik wrote: >> Why does Lojban use apostrophes instead of "h"'s? > >Because ' isn't h. > >> It seems much more natural to use "h"'s, as it keeps words together >> (consider that an apo'stro'phe ins'er'ts sp'ac'es i'n'to wo'rds, >> breaking them up and making them harder to read as one word). > >That apostrophes seem to break up words is a matter of opinion. I >don't feel that they break words up at all. > >> Is it acceptable to use, e.g. "keha" instead of "ke'a"? Or will people >> become angry? > >You'll find some people who won't mind. > >I'll probably just refuse to understand you. Same as if you were to use >unofficial gismu. > >-- >Jay Kominek _______________________________________________________ Sent through e-mol. E-mail, Anywhere, Anytime. http://www.e-mol.com