From twilightsense@gmail.com Mon Jan 31 09:17:09 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:17:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.197]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CvfAj-0005a5-OO for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:17:09 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so718841wra for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:16:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=NGSrvF7dYEjxE4z5ryNZbz9GMqCXr0aLXxFVKRuE6X0fT1aScrNvTOh2Jzdxmoy4oenbN6/PGlAVR7A7zGOlk+ZXyWTbI7M6NhaJAkjaxdN+eBzQkJUv+bUnedPf5MhKkORfEY+3prVl0XETNWT/ajRRdQuqWSN7xzE5lRQbIlM= Received: by 10.54.7.24 with SMTP id 24mr169790wrg; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:16:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.41.4 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:16:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <58f1af8f0501310916580e20f1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 01:16:38 +0800 From: M C To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: tavla N2. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII References: X-archive-position: 1096 X-Approved-By: twilightsense@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: twilightsense@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:40:51 +0100, Roman Gorbunov wrote: > It means "la tam. tavla la meris." is equal to "la meris. se tavla la > tam.", i.e. second sentence cannot be translated "Meris listen Tom", because > if Tom speaks to Meris it does not necessarely means that Meris listen to > Tom. Quite right. Marc -- doi kamgu'i do'u ko mi ri'urtulsru .i mi'e cimnymursyru'i