From mattarn@123.net Fri Feb 04 13:10:31 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 13:18:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from new.e-mol.com ([65.169.135.18] helo=mole.e-mol.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1CxAil-00079p-J5 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 13:10:31 -0800 Received: from mail.123.net (new.e-mol.com [65.163.85.18]) by mole.e-mol.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j14L9xTd028227 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:10:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:09:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200502042110.j14L9xTd028227@mole.e-mol.com> To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org From: Matt Arnold Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lo brivla valsi In-Reply-To: <20050204205820.30342.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050204205820.30342.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> X-Priority: 3 X-From: mattarn@mail.123.net X-Originating-IP: [209.220.229.254] Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1113 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: mattarn@123.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners It's not a problem. Lojbanists need to be part of the active Lojban-using community, which will quickly instruct them. Even if they learn in isolation, using "lo" as if it still meant "su'o lo" is not going to throw usage of Lojban into chaos. Updated instruction books would be nice someday, but it's certainly no make-or-break thing. -Matt lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org wrote: >--- Betsemes wrote: >> > I doubt the change will be very noticeable in usage. If you take >> > any old usage of lo, chances are it fits better with the "new" lo >> > than with "su'o lo". You chose yourself "lo brivla cu valsi" >> > as your first translation of "brivla are words", so where do >> > you expect to find confusion? >> Precisely where someone intended "lo" to mean "su'o lo". >But such cases are hard to come by, and even if they exist, >the new {lo} won't give any odd results there, just slightly >more vague. >mu'o mi'e xorxes _______________________________________________________ Sent through e-mol. E-mail, Anywhere, Anytime. http://www.e-mol.com