From betsemes@hotmail.com Tue Feb 08 12:52:31 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 12:52:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from bay23-dav12.bay23.hotmail.com ([64.4.22.192] helo=hotmail.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CycLX-0004nZ-FT for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 12:52:31 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:52:00 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 65.218.132.157 by BAY23-DAV12.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 20:51:37 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.218.132.157] X-Originating-Email: [betsemes@hotmail.com] X-Sender: betsemes@hotmail.com From: "Betsemes" To: References: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "x" sound Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:44:51 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Feb 2005 20:52:00.0575 (UTC) FILETIME=[092F14F0:01C50E20] X-archive-position: 1122 X-Approved-By: betsemes@hotmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: betsemes@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners > I find the Spanish 'j' and the Lojban 'x' fairly close in pronunciation. I have never traveled to Spain, but I believe I have been told that in Spain the 'j' is much more gutural than the "puertorrican" 'j'. Here, letter 'j' sounds very much like American English "h".